Yes - we see it as well
customer just renewed domain at Verisign
and the expiration date dissappeared

I have seen other registrars taking the step
of removing expiration date since they are
attempting to protect themselves from Verisign
and Registry of America's predatory renewal
mail notices.

Last I have heard Verisign claims there
were 'some errors' in their database that
caused some exp dates not appear,...

http://www.icann.org/nsi/icann-raa-04nov99.htm
Paragraph F.1.f.
1. At its expense, Registrar shall provide an interactive web page and a
port 43 Whois service providing free public query-based access to
up-to-date (i.e. updated at least daily) data concerning all active SLD
registrations sponsored by Registrar in the registry for the .com, .net,
and .org TLDs. The data accessible shall consist of elements that are
designated from time to time according to an ICANN-adopted policy. Until
ICANN otherwise specifies by means of an ICANN-adopted policy, this data
shall consist of the following elements as contained in Registrar's
database:
f. The expiration date of the registration;

However as Verisign demonstrated, they do not give a care about some
ICANN rules or regulations anyways

I believe you might see whole lot of domains being "protected" this way.

cheers
Genie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
Subject: New Verisign tactic with whois?


> Hi List.
>
> Ok, I gained a new client last week and when I looked up his domains,
they
> had expired. So, I explained we would have to renew them with netsol
(the
> current registrar). So i did as said (for 1 year of course). NOW,
after the
> whois update, I am seeing that the expired date is no longer even
being
> shown.... for both domains.
>
> Am I getting paranoid in thinking that as they update whois data for
> domains, they are stripping away the expires date to make it even
harder to
> get away from them at the right time????
>
> Any one else seen this on newly changed data at net sol??
>
> The domain is PYRINEX.COM should anyone want to view this.
>
> _ivan
>
>


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