I think your subject says it all. 

How do you justify selling something that's not yours in the first
place?

Just trying to understand the mindset - as this is not something that
would occur to me to do in the first place.

-Tim
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myOstrich Internet
http://www.myostrich.net 

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> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:15 AM
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> Subject: selling things that aren't yours...
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> 
> Hiya.
> 
> We have a number of domains that are still well off from 
> their registry expiry dates which refer to our DNS servers at 
> the registry and have email addresses within domains managed 
> here.  These are domains for which hosting contracts have 
> expired and the customers have gone AWOL. The admin email 
> addresses are obviously invalid, and in many cases the 
> telephone numbers are not in service.  We haven't gone to the 
> extent of sending paper reminders to the addresses listed in 
> the domains' WHOIS records, but I suspect many of them are no 
> longer valid as well.  We point the web pages for these 
> domains to a numbered virtualhost that tells people to 
> contact our billing department if they are the owner of the 
> domain and would like to set up hosting with us.
> 
> On occasion, we get queries from parties interested in 
> purchasing these domains.  Our traditional response has been 
> to tell these parties that the domains are simply unavailable 
> until they eventually expire.  But if the "real" owner is 
> nowhere to be found, by either email or phone, is there a 
> point where we can consider the domain to be "abandonned", 
> and facilitate its transfer to a new owner prior to its 
> registry-listed expiry date?
> 
> I'm thinking this is analagous to marine "right of salvage".  
> What's a reasonable amount of time a domain should be left 
> unattended and in violation of ICANN guidelines regarding 
> WHOIS data validity before it can be considered up for grabs? 
>  If anyone has experience with this sort of situation, or 
> pointers to relevant official documentation on the matter, 
> I'd love to hear about it.
> 
> p
> 
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