MC/V do not care because they collect the fees from the merchant every time
a stolen card is used and accepted by the issuing bank as being valid.

The merchant loses, but the thieves and the banks win.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mark Petersen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'ezgoing8'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'quicknet'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:03 AM
Subject: RE: Domain Lock Downside


> Heh....got another bunch from a group of gimps called ' ruddoc crewz" in
> their org name...last week it was 'allianz crewz'
>
> I'd love to squish these little gimps.....hmmm...
>
> It really is too bad that Visa/MC/Amex don't care about stolen credit
> cards being used..  I have a raft of them here.. :(
>
> Jason
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Petersen
> Sent: May 28, 2002 1:45 AM
> To: ezgoing8; quicknet; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Domain Lock Downside
>
> Well yeah. That's what we thought. We had a few trying to do 10 year
> domain
> regs too.
> 10 years? Like nobody is going to catch on in that length of time? Geez!
> What a bunch of dummy's!
> ;o)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ezgoing8" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "quicknet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Domain Lock Downside
>
>
> > We had 37 fraudulent hosting sign ups in an 18 hour period last week.
> All
> > purchases were for annual hosting accounts.
> >
> > We had to disable our automatic account creation as our merchant
> provider
> > was accepting all the fraudulent credit cards. Fortunately only the
> first
> > four got through and were set up before we discovered what was
> happening.
> > And they did not get to use them, as we promptly suspended them while
> we
> > checked out the credit card information with the issuing banks and
> then
> the
> > card holders if the information  matched.
> >
> > I don't know how they thought they were going to have the use of a
> hosting
> > account for a full year.  This is what first triggered our suspicions
> to
> > check the new sign ups as we do not receive many annual accounts.
> Mostly
> > monthly and quarterly.
> >
> > Quarterly I could understand, as they could hope that it would take
> that
> > long before we would be hit with the chargebacks and close the
> accounts.
> > But not annual.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "quicknet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 1:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: Domain Lock Downside
> >
> >
> > > What i want t to know is what in the world are they buying these
> domains
> > > for?.
> > > What company names should we be watching for or even content of the
> > sites?.
> > > Is it just domains names or are the trying to purchase websites with
> > them?.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'Mark Petersen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 6:13 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Domain Lock Downside
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah so much for all these automated systems, when it all comes
> down
> to
> > > > an eyeball..  :)
> > > >
> > > > We too have seen a 700% increase in business, and all of it
> fraudulent
> > > > sourcing from India..  Same crew, using the same 'org name'. One
> > > > actually had the audacity to email us about 2 hours after
> submitting
> > > > order to ask us to 'please process the order' so they could upload
> the
> > > > site, etc.  A $1000 USD transaction was definitely out of the
> ordinary..
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Funny...
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Petersen
> > > > Sent: May 27, 2002 6:24 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Domain Lock Downside
> > > >
> > > > Well, I don't know about a market upswing, but we sure have seen a
> rash
> > > > of
> > > > bad / stolen card attempts come in from IP's tracing back to
> > > > south east Asia over the past few days. So much so that we've
> switched
> > > > over
> > > > to cueing everything and validating by hand for now until things
> > > > settle down. What a pain in the rear!
> > > > -Mark
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "SpyProductions - Lars Hindsley"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 12:30 PM
> > > > Subject: Domain Lock Downside
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Gents,
> > > > >
> > > > > Locking domains is a PIA because end users can't modify squat
> without
> > > > > contacting us first.  This is OK with the "dumb and happy's" but
> we
> > > > have
> > > > > customers with 1000+ names in their profiles.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is like what goes up must come down.  If you lock it, you
> need to
> > > > unlock
> > > > > it.  Changing DNS is undoable with locked domains, and that is a
> sore
> > > > spot
> > > > > for most of our customers.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose my only option is to enable an option at registration
> asking
> > > > > customers, "Do you want your domain records locked?"
> > > > >
> > > > > Otherwise, if I'm all wet here tell me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, has anyone noticed a market upswing?  We have seen an
> increase
> > > > of
> > > > > domain name registrations recently and I can't help but think it
> is
> > > > this
> > > > way
> > > > > across the board.  Nothing significant but it is noticeable.
> The
> > > > .com's
> > > > are
> > > > > by far the most popular of course but .us has been much more
> steady
> > > > and
> > > > > strong than .biz and .info have ever been.  Just thought I'd
> share.
> > > > I'm
> > > > > talking March through May numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Lars Hindsley
> > > > > SpyProductions.com
> > > > > Achieve Web Success
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>

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