Can we get a word from OSRS on what third parties purchased this bulk access? --- Michael Brunson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's play a little game with Occam's Razor... > > Perhaps they took the lazy and lawful route of buying > the WHOIS data? > > Why would openSRS (or any registrar) do this? Another > simple answer, they must. > > Here are some relevant quotes, which some of you have > probably seen many times: > > --------------- > REGISTRAR ACCREDITATION AGREEMENT > http://www.icann.org/nsi/icann-raa-04nov99.htm > [...] > > F. Public Access to Data on SLD Registrations. During > the term of this Agreement: > [...] > > 6. In addition, Registrar shall provide third-party > bulk access to the data subject to public access > under Section II.F.1 under the following terms and > conditions: > > a. Registrar shall make a complete electronic copy of > the data available at least one time per week for > download by third parties who have entered into a > bulk access agreement with Registrar. > > b. Registrar may charge an annual fee, not to exceed > US$10,000, for such bulk access to the data. > > c. Registrar's access agreement shall require the > third party to agree not to use the data to allow, > enable, or otherwise support the transmission of > mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or > solicitations via e-mail (spam). > > d. Registrar's access agreement may require the third > party to agree not to use the data to enable > high-volume, automated, electronic processes that > apply to Registrar (or its systems). > > e. Registrar's access agreement may require the third > party to agree not to sell or redistribute the data > except insofar as it has been incorporated by the > third party into a value-added product or service > that does not permit the extraction of a > substantial portion of the bulk data from the > value-added product or service for use by other > parties. > > f. Registrar may enable SLD holders who are > individuals to elect not to have Personal Data > concerning their registrations available for bulk > access for marketing purposes based on Registrar's > "Opt-Out" policy, and if Registrar has such a > policy Registrar shall require the third party to > abide by the terms of that Opt-Out policy; > provided, however, that Registrar may not use such > data subject to opt-out for marketing purposes in > its own value-added product or service. > --------------- > > I think that pretty much speaks for itself. if not.. > Registrars must allow for companies to buy their WHOIS > data. I don't like it anymore than anyone else we I get > the letters and I dislike it even more when it takes > customers, but since those are the current rules we > shall live by them. If you want to change the rules, > that is a different topic and a different list. > > > Have a great night, > Michael > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 19:41:57 -0700, Genie Livingstone > used a few recycled electrons to form: > > | It's being done all the time - they spread the lookups over several > | unsuspecting whois script owners and time them about one whois > querry > | per so many seconds - we catch them all the time on our whois.cgi > and > | simply block that IP simply to find another rascal trying later, > this is > | one of the reasons we think livestats or similar visitor monitoring > are > | priceless to protect our IP from being banned since there are abuse > | attempts by harvesters > | > | cheers > | Genie > | > | > | > How about the following scenario: > | > 1. someone signed up for zone files (free) > | > 2. someone2 wrote a perl script for someone for $50 (25/hr) > | > that perl script does the following: > | > opens zone file stored localy. > | > queries using oroginal registrar whois server. > | > looks if expiration date is in the next century or less, > | > if this the case puts all necesarry information into template. > | > when all zone file are done prints results. > | > Then manyaly someone3 puts it into envelops an mails it (bulk) > | > 3. someone gets payments from the customers of other registrars. > | > 4. Since ICANN takes no action and this "additional" incomes > saves the > | > company from Ch 11. this info is priceless. > | > | > | >
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