I am sure they (The registry and OpenSRS) will test before going live.
Therefore, why would it concern you what the registry does? I hate to burst
your bubble but the registry's are always making changes on their end and
you don't ever know it... ;o)


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sergei Kolodka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "discuss-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Moving renewal dates...


> Hello,
>
> Mike, it's not question what OpenSRS can and what can't.
> I'm personally don't care about any features that OpenSRS
> uses on their backend, but AFAIK expiration date lay far
> behind OpenSRS competence. It's registry feature.
> And it's about how registration period handled - 1 (one) year
> added to initial registration date, and there is just no place
> for 9 months and 9 days. So, implementation of your proposal
> will involve registry changes. And I definitely care about
> such destructive changes. Period.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Sergei Kolodka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> MA> That is what "Paradigm" is all about. Not wanting any change.  First
of all,
> MA> once again I will explain, "If you don't want to use the function,
then
> MA> don't"  Why are you so concerned about a feature being added that you
feel
> MA> you wouldn't use. I hardly believe just because you would not use it
that we
> MA> should all suffer and not have it. OpenSRS is not going to drop the
idea
> MA> because you don't like it.
>
>
> MA> --
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>
> MA> ----- Original Message -----
> MA> From: "Sergei Kolodka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MA> To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MA> Cc: "discuss-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MA> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:49 AM
> MA> Subject: Re[2]: Moving renewal dates...
>
>
> >> Hello Mike,
> >>
> >> Maybe you just have to jump into EPP draft discussion
> >> and try to explain to Scott Hollenbeck  why do you need
> >> this. Your proposal could became an official standard.
> >>
> >> But for me personally, i don't think that you and your
> >> customer with 400 domains is a good reason to change
> >> registry's logic which will affect more than 30 millions
> >> domains.
> >>
> >> If it work - don't fix it. That's a good paradigm.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Sergei
> >>
> >>
> >> MA> That would be acceptable. Although a little more technical, I think
> >> MA> (actually know) our customers would more than approve this type of
> MA> offer)
> >>
> >>
> >> MA> --
> >> MA> Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net
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> >> MA> ----- Original Message -----
> >> MA> From: "Derek J. Balling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> MA> To: "Michael Brody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> MA> Cc: "Ross Wm. Rader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mike Allen"
> >> MA> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Johannes Erdfelt"
> MA> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> >> MA> "discuss-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> MA> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:07 PM
> >> MA> Subject: Re: Moving renewal dates...
> >>
> >>
> >> >> > At the moment Verisign (the registry) accepts registrations and
> >> >> > renewals for 1 year increments.  Therefore this would require a
> MA> change
> >> >> > at the registry level.
> >> >>
> >> >> Correct.
> >> >>
> >> >> > In the past when there were problems with transfers and domains
had a
> >> >> > year taken away due to 'interesting policies' Verisign was able to
> MA> add
> >> >> > months to registrations to give domain owners time to renew their
> >> >> > domains, so they do have the technology to add less than 12 months
to
> MA> a
> >> >> > domain name.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also correct.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Now a customer has for example 150 domain names expiring on 150
> >> >> > different days.
> >> >> > Which expiration date do we standardize to?
> >> >>
> >> >> Let the customer decide what day is most convenient to them. The
math
> MA> is
> >> >> still the same for the registry regardless.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Or do we give a choice of 4 days eg Jan 15, April 15, July 15,
> MA> October
> >> >> > 15 - to coincide with fiscal quarters?
> >> >>
> >> >> Just as a point of note, I've NEVER worked for a company whose
fiscal
> >> >> quarter ended in the middle of month.
> >> >> 1/1-3/31,4/1-6/30,7/1-9/30,10/1-12/31 seems to be the schedule I've
> >> >> usually seen, with some occasional variation on which one is
actually
> >> >> "first" in the fiscal year (e.g., my present employer runs
7/1-6/30).
> >> >>
> >> >> > How do we bill for this?
> >> >>
> >> >> We = RSP's? However you like.
> >> >>
> >> >> >   do we take the new expiration date, subtract the current
expiration
> >> >> > date, divide that by number of days in the year and multiply by
the
> >> >> > annual renewal fee?  Does OpenSRS do the same for our billing?  Do
we
> >> >> > have a minimum renewal fee   (moving expiration date from October
13
> MA> to
> >> >> > October 15?) results in a minimum renewal fee of $1.00?
> >> >>
> >> >> I think the logic of:
> >> >> N = number of days to move an expiration forward (only forward!)
> >> >> A = annual cost (presently $10.00)
> >> >> C = (N/365)*A = Cost to change expiration date,
> >> >>
> >> >> although I could also accept
> >> >>
> >> >> F = Handling Fee
> >> >> C = ( (N/365)*A) + F )
> >> >>
> >> >> D
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>


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