Oh... so you want to actually obtain these?  Well, here are the steps I'd
suggest

1) always perform a lookup - it costs WAY less system resources and will
ensure you're not adversely affecting our system
2) if the lookup is successful, do a registration attempt.

If either fail, take the name off your list.  Then move to the next name.

It's a tricky business though (as others will attest).  Sometimes a domain
is "taken", then a few minutes later it gets dropped by the registry.  Then
someone steals it... it's hard to tell if the "taken" is pre-dropping, or
post-dropping (dropping ... hrm... plop plop plop)

If you find it necessary to re-run the scripts to attempt to get a domain,
please try to make it "slow and steady" (i.e. don't hammer our systems),
point all such traffic to batch.opensrs.net (instead of rr-n1-tor), and be
patient.  There are MANY folks who are in this game and are quite good at it
(we don't play favourites!)

As for saluting Outlook - don't take my usage of the tool as a specific
endorsement.  Just following internal LAN rules, and trying to remain
compatible with my coworkers.  If you want an official endorsement, use
Eudora or PINE (and that's only my opinion - that and a $1 will get you a
coffee on most days)

Charles Daminato
OpenSRS Product Manager
Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ramy Nabil
> Sent: September 9, 2002 1:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Bulk Check
>
>
> Yes checking the root zone files is the first step, but is not
> all the task, as dropping a domain from
> the root zone files does Not mean that it is currently available
> for registration.
> Am I right?
>
> Sorry for letting your mail reader sad before, and hope it to be
> happy forever as it is so important for
> all of us (while I don't like Microsoft or any of its products
> but I have to salute the Outlook now as it
> is the tool you use).
>
> Ramy Nabil
> -----
> http://www.mydomreg.com
>
> Charles Daminato wrote:
>
> > A better approach is to get access to the root zone files
> (which I believe
> > is possible) and compare the files locally.  This will give you a better
> > idea without having to point any traffic at the registry (or us)
> >
> > There are many other places (folks on the list, and searches in the
> > archives) that can provide the results/data you're looking for....
> >
> > As an aside, thank you for updating your charset, my mail
> reader is happier
> > now (even if the relationship between Micro$not and Netscrape isn't)
> >
> > Charles Daminato
> > OpenSRS Product Manager
> > Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ramy Nabil
> > > Sent: September 9, 2002 1:16 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Bulk Check
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > >
> > > As I stated before, I need to extract the expired domains list
> > > from the root zone files dropped domains
> > > by checking if these dropped domains are available for
> > > registration or not, so there are hundreds or even
> > > thousands of these dropped domains daily.
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > BTW Microsoft Outlook and Netscape Messenger are not always friends.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ramy Nabil
> > > ------
> > > http://www.mydomreg.com
> > >
> > > Charles Daminato wrote:
> > >
> > > > <Ramil> again, having problems with mail sent from you... what
> > > mail reader
> > > > do you use?
> > > >
> > > > Why do you need to perform hundreds if not thousands of lookups
> > > per day?  Is
> > > > your volume that high?
> > > >
> > > > Charles Daminato
> > > > OpenSRS Product Manager
> > > > Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Paul,
> > > > But the API allows only to check one domain at a time, which
> > > will consume=
> > > >  a lot of bandwidth to check
> > > > several hundreds (or may be thousands) of domains daily.
> > > > I think no need to do DNS queries as the lists wanted to be
> > > checked are o=
> > > > btained from comparing the root
> > > > zone files to extract dropped domains, so the domains are not
> > > found in th=
> > > > e root zone files and so sure
> > > > they will not resolve.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Ramy Nabil
> > > > -----
> > > > http://www.mydomreg.com
> > > >
> > > > Paul Chvostek wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 12:25:43PM +0300, Ramy Nabil wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any method to make bulk domain availability check
> > > that's it =
> > > > to check the availability of
> > > > > > several domains in one step and get the result as available
> > > list and =
> > > > unavailable one rather than
> > > > > > checking them one by one to save bandwidth of both sides.
> > > > > > That is required mainly to extract the expired domains list
> > > from the =
> > > > dropped domains.
> > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > You could always write one.=A0 Communication with Tucows
> via the API
> > > > > doesn't take that much bandwidth.=A0 If you wanted to reduce
> > > the actual
> > > > > checks for availability, you could do quick DNS queries
> on the domain
> > > > > list first, then only check availability for the domains that
> > > failed th=
> > > > e
> > > > > DNS check (since the others are obviously registered and therefore
> > > > > unavailable).
> > > > >
> > > > > Something like this would be pretty simple to code.=A0 If
> > > you'd like so=
> > > > me
> > > > > custom development work done, I'm sure a number of the folks here
> > > > > (myself included) would be willing and able to help.
> > > >
> > > > Charles Daminato
> > > > OpenSRS Product Manager
> > > > Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

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