Okay, this sounds all well and good, but in the case of the script I
mentioned, we're actually using it to turn a pending orders into real
orders upon confirmation of payment.

Were it not for the script, I would do manually do exactly the same
thing for registrations -- confirm the VISA authorization, log in to the
RWI and un-pend the order.  For bulk things, I would certainly point
things at batch.opensrs.net, but wouldn't single-domain unpends be
categorized as "other" activities?  What's unwholesome about pending
first and confirming later?

I realize it's not a big issue for me in particular, but if you're going
to get firmer with the policies, I think it's important to ensure that
the policies properly represent the issues.  "All scripts" is not the
same as "all high-volume non-registration traffic".

p

On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 01:38:19PM -0400, Charles Daminato wrote:
> 
> We try to get you, wherever possible, to point any and all scripts at the
> batch pool.  When we say "not guaranteed", it doesn't mean that if this box
> goes offline we don't care (far from it).  But since it points to Verisign's
> "auto batch" pool (for the CNO registrations), we have no guaranteed (from
> the registry) connections to their systems, so we can't extend that
> guarantee to you guys.
> 
> The intent of the batch pool was extended by the same intent for verisign to
> create a "batch" pool, whereby massive "checks" for domains could be
> performed and not affect the regular "legitimate" pool (I'm using a lot of
> quoted words and paranthesized comments ... hrm).  Basically we want good
> wholesome transactions to go through our regular pool, and other activities
> (massive scripting, scripted lookups, digging for data through the RWI
> interfaces, etc) to go through batch.opensrs.net so the "other" activities
> don't affect the regular day to day business of other resellers (as these
> activities occasionally do, especially during the daily "drop" time)
> 
> Phew...
> 
> Charles Daminato
> OpenSRS Product Manager
> Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Chvostek
> > Sent: September 9, 2002 1:20 PM
> > To: Charles Daminato
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Bulk Check
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 07:59:14AM -0400, Charles Daminato wrote:
> > >
> > > The difference is that the two systems are seperate.  rr-n1-tor
> > is a pool of
> > > machines setup for general use and is 100% supported by our
> > organization.
> > > Also, the backend points to "guaranteed" pools at the registry
> > >
> > > batch.opensrs.net is the same code as rr-n1-tor, but it's setup
> > to point to
> > > the "batch pools" at the registries, and NOT a guaranteed
> > interface - but we
> > > DO allow scripting against that machine (within reason).
> >
> > It is wonderful to hear the difference finally.  (If it was mentioned
> > before, I missed it.)
> >
> > > We do NOT allow scripting against the rr-n1-tor pools
> >
> > Uh...  Scripting AT ALL, or within reason?
> >
> > At present, I put new domain orders into pending, and run credit cards
> > through a batch-based process with my bank (which is *way* cheaper than
> > the standard Internet clearing mechanisms).  It costs me $0.08 per batch
> > to upload, and take 10 to 15 minutes for a batch to be processed.  So
> > when a batch result comes back saying that a particular transaction
> > cleared, I've got a script (based on Tom Brown's old Perl password.cgi)
> > which logs in to the RWI, finds the order and processes it.
> >
> > Personally, I'd much rather this sort of thing go through "guaranteed"
> > channels.  Do you see potential for abuse?  Should I point it at batch
> > rather than rr-n1-tor?
> >
> > --
> >   Paul Chvostek                                             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >

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