Hi John,

1) "OK, so the registry WHOIS will not show the updated date despite the
fact
that the domain has been updated through OpenSRS."

This is correct, unfortunately we are restrained by the Registry's
infrastructure on this one. The Nominet Registry hosts the WHOIS for .uk
domains and no matter who the registrar is, they only apply renewal years
after expiry for their own internal reasoning. There are rumors cycling that
they may change this sometime soon but that will be announced when and if
that time comes.

This system differs from C/N/O since the REGISTRAR is authoritative or hosts
the WHOIS for these CNO names. Since we do not operate the WHOIS on .uk
domains we cannot provide this as proof of renewal for your clients.

2) "Is there any place on the net (OpenSRS' own WHOIS?) other than (I
assume)
the Manage interface - which I am going to guess will show "Renewal Applied
State" under "Waiting Requests" - where we can show our customers that we
really did renew their domain? Also, will the RWI show the old
(pre-renewal-applied) expiry?"

As I stated above when you do a whois on a .uk domain through our whois, we
are merely parsing the registry whois for display. Therefore even our own
whois will not show this renewal year applied publicly. It will only show in
the two following ways here:

-Manage(MWI) will show the new expiration date on every page in the
status(upper) part of the page.

-Resellers will be able to see that a domain is in the renewal applied state
by searching and viewing the specifics of the domain through the RWI on a
domain by domain basis. The expiry date listed in the RWI WILL include the
addition of the renewal year of domains in the Renewal Applied state.

3) "OK, which expiry will this be applied against? If the domain is
"renewed" at
91 days, but the expiry date not update until the actual date of expiry,
will the UK domain holder continue to receive renewal notices despite having
renewed the domain?"

No, our system checks the status of the domain internally before sending
these emails. If the domain is in "renewal applied state" then the renewal
messaging will no longer initiate as it will be treated as a successfully
renewed domain.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Thanks,

Peter Ejtel
Sales Manager
Tucows Inc.
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>From http://resellers.tucows.com/releasenotes/uk :

> Please note that Nominet, the Registry for .UK, completes renewals only at
the
> time of expiry. This means that renewal requests will not be processed by
the
> Registry until the current expiry date of the domain. In addition, the
> Registry system does not operate in real-time. This means that the WHOIS
> updates may not be completed until 6-8 weeks after the initial expiry
date.

OK, so the registry WHOIS will not show the updated date despite the fact
that the domain has been updated through OpenSRS.

> Renewal orders are completed immediately in OpenSRS and renewal funds are
> deducted from the Reseller's account at that time. Once the renewal order
is
> processed, OpenSRS places the domain in a new state called "Renewal
Applied
> State". The Renewal Applied State ensures that the domain will be
> automatically renewed at Registry when the current expiration date is
reached.
> The renewal fee is non-refundable.

Is there any place on the net (OpenSRS' own WHOIS?) other than (I assume)
the Manage interface - which I am going to guess will show "Renewal Applied
State" under "Waiting Requests" - where we can show our customers that we
really did renew their domain?

Also, will the RWI show the old (pre-renewal-applied) expiry?


> Resellers will have the option to use the standard 90/60/30/5/-10 day
> configurable notifications available in OpenSRS via the RWI and Client
Code
> implementation.

OK, which expiry will this be applied against? If the domain is "renewed" at
91 days, but the expiry date not update until the actual date of expiry,
will the UK domain holder continue to receive renewal notices despite having
renewed the domain?

Thanks in advance for the clarifications.

--
John Keegan
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http://RackShare.com


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