I think you have domainwhiz confused with me. Several months ago you send me a private email telling me to shut up or stay off the list because you did not like some of the comments I had recently made on the list.
At that time I told you that when OpenSRS was attacked and was right I was quick to defend OpenSRS but when OpenSRS was wrong I did not hesistate to state you were wrong. At that time I refused to give you my reseller login when you requested it. I told you that I no longer used you as a source of registrations but still had a large number of existing clients using your service and do not wish to jeoprodize them by providing you this information. I told you that I was attempting to move these clients to another service and once that was complete I would no longer be on the list nor concerned with what you did. Unfortunately I still have a few clients that want you as the Registrar so I keep up with the list. At that point I did not trust your company to keep your word nor act honorable. You may consider that paranoid but I think the events justified that feeling on my part. I never expected that you would be sending emails to those who disagreed with OpenSRS policies to tell them to shut up or stay off the list. You did not use these exact words but your email made it very clear that was what you meant. Since that email I have not posted directly to the list prio to this but I am not surpraised you are moving into the other services. Eventually you will move into hosting, completing the cycle. But the resellers who remain with you only have themselves to blame for their loss of business, as this trend was evident some time ago. Of course I don't expect you to accept that you have acted dishonorably toward your resellers but I do remember when I first started with OpenSRS we were told that OpenSRS would not move into the other services offered by their resellers. We are now down to a small number of domains with you, most of whom expire in future years. And none of them use our hosting services or they would have been transferred as well since we now offer free domain registration to our hosting clients. So I really do not care what services you offer in the future as it will have very little impact on us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elliot Noss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "domainwhiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Discuss List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: RE: Tucows survey [offlist] > comments inline. only because you continue to make ever broader accusations > do I respond. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: domainwhiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:28 AM > > To: Elliot Noss > > Cc: Discuss List > > Subject: RE: Tucows survey [offlist] > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 08:11, Elliot Noss wrote: > > > You have made it clear to me that you are > > > > > a) no longer a customer > > > > Not true. But when the email service rolled out, our company did hedge > > its bets and signup with other providers as well, and transitioned our > > interfaces to be provider independent. Switching to a new primary > > provider is as easy as making a single change to a configuration > > variable. > > this is what I recall you telling me offlist months ago when I asked you > about some other criticism. that you do all your new registrations elsewhere > and were in the process of transferring existing names. I could be wrong > (and do not propose to take the time to sort through my mail not because it > is not important but because it will siply take too long). > > > > > > > > b) wouldn't tell me your username because we are then likely to > > steal your > > > remaining names under management. > > > > You would have to violate your contract with the company I work for to > > do that, and that would land you a lawsuit. But thank you for noting > > that you would "steal" domain customers from a reseller who is critical > > of your corporate plans. It was this threat that made me decide to send > > this to the list. > > > > IIRC, when I asked you offlist for your username months ago the reason you > gave for not giving it to me was that you still had some names with us that > you had not yet transferred and you feared that if you gave me your username > we would "make it difficult for you". if I have you confused with someone > else then I apologize, but I do pretty strongly recall asking you about your > anonymity and you including that VERY CLEARLY in your explaination for it. I > found this fear paranoid and silly for the reasons that you outline above, > but that is what I was referring to. your fear, not our actions. > > [snip] > > > > > That being said please do not be insulting to other list members. It is > > > inappropriate. > > > > I was not insulting them, Elliot. I was asking them a question, a > > simple question, and one that makes the very point that I feel is > > central and key to this entire discussion. I know that this point is > > probably one of the single most damaging to your case in defending your > > service offering, because it shows the VERY wide gap between those who > > know, and those who don't, and shows just how big a gap you are closing > > by offering this service. The harm to your best and largest resellers > > that will happen from your closing this gap is substantial, to us > > anyway. > > IMHO you were clearly being insulting. I would be surprised if the > recipients of the comments did not feel the same way. > > > > > Making threats via private email to shut up the criticism will not help > > your case. > > > > res ipsa loquitor. a polite request is not a threat. if you want to continue > with this please do it privately. > > Regards > > Elliot Noss > Tucows inc. > 416-538-5494 > >
