Bernhard, 2010/11/24 Bernhard Dippold <[email protected]>
> Hi Michael, all, > > one question on the ESC: > > Michael Meeks schrieb: > >> Hi Drew, >> >> On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 07:56 -0500, drew wrote: >> >>> [...] >>> >> >> The ESC, do you see this as a very active group, for instance working as >>> the release team, meeting often and looking at individual issues? >>> >> >> Wrt. looking at individual issues, probably not - unless they have >> wide >> reaching consequences; but to better co-ordinate on the burning issues >> of the day, and have a final say on things like: >> >> "Do we port entirely to Java" (I think 'no' but ... ;-) >> >> And to be a responsible backstop for technical issues - which often >> simply require a decision - any decision being far better than none. >> > > I fully understand the necessity for an entity to decide on mere technical > issues. > > What I only see described between the lines, is something we should > consider, as is has led to a very disappointing situation in OOo: > > Can ESC decide on topics related not only to coding and development, but > influencing larger parts of the community? > > Probably all of you know about the OOo-ESC decision on implementing the > color"less" ODF icons. > > The topic has been discussed in an ESC meeting, where nobody objected loud, > then presented in a blog entry after the first version had been finished and > despite very strong opinions against their implementation implemented in > OOo3.2.1 with the negative feedback foreseen by their critics. > > I don't want to experience another similar situation - well knowing, that > the OOo-ESC is special because of Oracle. > > But every now and then there will be a situation, where developer have a > certain opinion on strategic decisions and directions of development. > Marketing and / or UX might think differently. As the developer are the ones > able to include their solution in the product, they have a quite strong > position. How can we assure that other groups' expertise will have the same > impact? > > The Bylaws state that the ESC "provides technological guidance on strategic > matters". That's guidance, not decision. > > Will the BoD be the entity to decide in such a situation? > Yes, it will be up to the BoD to settle things down if such a situation were to arise. Best, Charles. > > On which list do we discuss strategic matters at all? > > Marketing? Discuss? Steering-Discuss? > A closed list to avoid counter-activity by our competitor(s)? > > Sorry for coming up with such a more or less hypothetical case, but I > really want to avoid problems as we had them in OOo... > > Best regards > > Bernhard > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > [email protected]<steering-discuss%[email protected]> > List archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] List archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
