Hi Florian, NoOp, *, Florian Effenberger schrieb: > NoOp wrote on 2011-03-10 06.10:
[..] > If you have a good proposal, let me know. We, however, tried every > solution, and mlmmj seemed best. +1 > What we, and that's where I agree with you, need is some web interface > that helps users in managing their subscriptions. I won't worry about that, as long as it ist *not* obligatory! One of the big advantages of the "mail way" of managing mailing list (un-)subscriptions is *not* to have one more account anywhere around. [..] >> Perhaps it is because by the time the reach point of unsubscribing >> to the list(s) that they don't want to read? Don't know, but if the >> unsubscribe/subscribe information were posted on the website mail >> list area maybe they could instead be referred to that instead of >> some special email? I wait for that link since January! No one was able to provide me with it up to now! see: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg04585.html [..] >> How about tagging moderated messages so that subscribed users know >> that the post is from a unsubscribed poster and has been forwarded >> by a moderator? It's rather simple: just as a [Moderated] tag to the >> subject of the message. > As said, we would have to iplement that ourselves. So, if there's a > volunteer, willing to work on the mlmmj source code, I am happy > install a patch. Sadly, no mailing list system I know of provides > that, but it would indeed be a great feature. See my mail to Marco: http://go.mail-archive.com/RjF-au8F7oa5W9Jc7Z9f2S2YwhA= In short saying: send autgenerated mail to nonsubscriber pointing to the archived thread of his question. >> Then if the mandate is to allow unsubscribed posts, *please* >> identify the post as such with a [Moderated] tag in the subject. As >> you may/or may not have witnessed on the OOo list over the past 5 >> years or so, this issue has been a subject of contention that raises >> it's ugly head at least once a month. The general consensus was to >> allow unsubscribed posters; the key problem was/is that there was/is >> no easy way to know if the post came from such. As Marko says in his Blog: don't bother valuable volunteers with that question at all. >> So folks send off a reply only to be told later that the time they >> took to respond fell on deaf ears because the OP was from someone not >> subscribed to the list. They then have to decide whether they wish to >> reforward their response to the Unsub, or just move on. > I agree that this would be helpful, it just has to be developed, as no > mailing list manager provides it out of the box. My take would be, > btw, to add the information to the message body, in order to not > break threading with a modified subject. Again, if someone wants to > come up with a patch that does it, you're welcome! See > http://mlmmj.org/bugs/bug.php?id=20 This from my point of view is one solution even if not my favorite. [..] >> Is it a limitation for mlmmj, or can the instructions that are >> received in the email be posted on the website? See above. I'm waiting just for the link - no matter whether alive or not - since weeks. [..] > In a nutshell: Four things can help, and if someone works on them, > that would be welcome > 1. A website explaining the unsubscription mechanism > 2. A web interface for moderators and users of the lists > 3. A patch to tag moderated messages > 4. A patch to improve the unsubscription mechanism, so that > unsubscribe always unsubscribes you from everything, as long as you > just have one type of list subscription 5. A mechanism informing not subscribed people, how to find the anwers themselves. Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images (german version already started) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***