----- Original Message ---- > From: Thorsten Behrens <t...@documentfoundation.org> > To: BRM <bm_witn...@yahoo.com> > Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org > Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 5:34:38 AM > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried? > > BRM wrote: > > In some cases, the community decision was aligned with the > > members, but they stilled didn't take to the decision through the > > community but through what they wanted so it the decision seemed > > more forced on the community than decided by the community even in > > those cases > > > well, the thing with decision making is that invariably, you'll make > people unhappy - that said, the canonical answer to your problem is, > strive for, and apply for membership. In contrast to the OOo > project, members collectively have a true say here. > > - e.g. go back and read the Copyright Assignment discussion. > > > Um - surely that's a bad example for deciding against the community > - since all of the developer community made it abundantly clear that > they don't like copyright assignment so much? ;) >
You missed the point. That was actually an example where they made the right decision but for the wrong reason. Yes the developers were overwhelmingly for not having any copyright assignment; however, the 3 people founding TDF at the time decided long before the community came to that decision not to do it and didn't really even listen to the community, participate beneficially in the discussion, etc. So as I said, the decision seemed forced upon the community rather than decided by the community even though the community did agree on that issue. On the other hand, there were discussions regarding the GO-OO patches as well as whether or not to support writing OOXML - topics that were sidelined in favor of a decision by the same 3 people rather than listening to the community. So again, decisions that affect the community - some of which have potentially legal impacts and pitfalls - were decided not by the community but forced by a couple people. While I was originally optimistic that TDF/LO would be better than Sun/Oracle OOo, as a result I have yet to see that happen. That's not to say it isn't happening or the community isn't taking over - I'm just waiting a bit longer to see. So for now yes, I continue to use OOo. If TDF/LO shows it is truly a community project and not ruled by a benevolent few that are forcing the hands of the community, then I will likely switch over and start participating more - until then I shall continue to watch. Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
