On 9 Jun 2011, at 12:12, Simon Brouwer wrote:

> Hi Jim, all,
> 
> Jim Jagielski schreef:
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 Jun 2011, at 23:49, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Op 6-6-2011 11:37, toki schreef:
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>>>>>> On 05/06/2011 15:00, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A formal, legal foundation. The ASF is a recognized 501(c)3, non-
>>>>>> TDF might not have 501(c)(3) status, but then consider that it is
>>>>>> incorporated in Germany, not the United States.
>>>>> That 501(c)(3) status aside, is TDF actually a legally established
>>>>> foundation (yet)?
>>>> 
>>>> I also think that 'independent' is also an adjective that belongs
>>>> there... being independent is quite important to a number
>>>> of FOSS ecosystem people...
>>> 
>>> While that is clearly a true statement, you seem to be implying that you
>>> don't think TDF is "independent".  Please can you explain what you mean?
>> 
>> People may just be curious about TDF being "backed" by“Freies Office
>> Deutschland
>> e.V.” as well as an associated project in Software in the Public Interest
>> (SPI).
>> What does being "backed" by them mean? How independent is it from these
>> 2 entitied? Just questions like that.
>> 
>> Certainly being an independent, legally established foundation is
>> critical, isn't it, as compare to one which is "just" a legally
>> established one?
> 
> But is it even "just" a legally established foundation? AFAIK, TDF unto
> this day does not exist as a legal entity.

While that's pedantically correct, TDF appears to currently be an initiative of 
a perfectly adequate non-profit legal entity and as such I have no problems 
with its existence or independence.


S.


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