Hi Jesper, Il 27/06/2011 10:49, Jesper Lund Stocholm ha scritto: > Hi Davide, > > 2011/6/27 Davide Dozza <dav...@flossconsulting.it>: >> Il 26/06/2011 23:21, plino ha scritto: >> [...] >> >>> >>> Charles-H. Schulz wrote: >>>> If you want absolute layout fidelity use PDF. That's the reason it's >>>> been designed, not ODF. >>> >>> PDF is used for keeping printing fidelity. It's not an editable format. >> >> OOo, LibO, Symphony, Word, Abiword, Koffice and so on are tools for >> editing documents and not for keeping viewing *and* printing fidelity. >> For such purpose you should use desktop publishing software which has a >> complete different approach (i.e. Inkscape). >> >> Also for PDF, embedding fonts is an option. Only for PDF-A it's mandatory. >> >>> Should I make my presentations using a PDF? >> >> Yes. By embedding your fonts if you want to be *reasonable* sure that >> you will open the file and obtain a similar result in the future. > > Aren't you guys really talking sortof detached from "the real world?" > (no disrespect intended).
I've been working on OOo migrations since 2003. Especially for PA. I think I'm not detached from the real world.... ;-) > > Even though you might be right that you could pass around documents as > PDF/A, the reality is that users simply don't do that. Users create > their content in Writer, Impress, Calc etc and they pass those files > around and not their PDF-counter parts. This is really orthogonal to > the collaboration process - be that "for view" or for "for editing". > Also, suggesting to use PDF for Impress-files is not really going to > work. This will effectively stop any animations, transformation, > embedded multimedia etc from being of any use. I wish I opened Word 5.0 files in the same way as I did 20 years ago but.... One thing it's what people wish, another what the law requires and yet another is what technology offers. For a PA when a document has to be long-term archived only in a electronic way, the Italian law requires PDF/A. Fidelity is a must. You have to keep in mind that there is a trade off between features and fidelity. Because fidelity it's a question of rendering algorithms: more features means more complexity for such algorithms. Therefore the more fidelity you ask the less features you have. That why PDF/A has been created. > > So in the real world users (not all, of course) *will* be troubled > about this, they *will* look for alternatives and they *will* blame > LibO/ODF for this feature lack ... regardless that usage of PDF would > seem like a better choice for them. > > Personally I don't really understand why ODF TC (or, Charles in > particular) is to adamant in not wanting to add embedding of fonts to > ODF. It seems like a small addition to ODF-spec and would serve the > purpose of users that have no other alternative than use Microsoft > Office. On the other hand I agree completely that ODF TC should be > presented with "working code" presumably in a branch of e.g. LibO > where (the value of) the functionality is demonstrated. > This is another question. We can discuss about embedding font in ODF but please don't sell it for document fidelity reasons. Davide -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
