Hi Il 10/03/2013 01:16, Keith Curtis ha scritto:
Hi;
I'm totally with you Keith
While working on my wiki page about a new Writer toolbar, I realized that independently of my proposal, I believe it makes sense for LibreOffice to prefer Python. I see how LO is heading in this direction, but you could be explicit about it, create more workitems, perhaps track it like you do the German comments and uncalled functions, etc. You may have to support Java for years, but that doesn't mean you should invest in the language. I wrote almost an entire chapter in my book about some of the biggest problems with it (http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?page_id=2228). You've already got a layer that allows you to have bindings with multiple languages, and you can just keep it around for any of the ones people care about. This isn't about taking away language choices for users, but doing what is best for your code and community. According to Ohloh, Java is 5% of your code, Python is .5%, and Basic is .2%. I know some wizards have been ported over, but it appears that was just the start. I would consider Java as part of your technical debt. I wouldn't recommend any existing busy developers quit what they are doing to port a bunch of code, but you could make a point to recruit new people with Python experience like you do for German speakers. It is also a lot easier of a way to get into the LibreOffice codebase. STL makes my head hurt, and it is just one of the things you need to know to contribute to the C++. Even if you had a bunch more Python programmers than you have today, you could keep them busy for many months. Likewise, you need VBA / StarBasic support for an indefinite amount of time, possibly longer than Java. But this is a language that not many people use in the free software community, nor get excited about, nor is actively developed, so to the extent that you can encourage people to not write extensions in Basic, it will be better. I tried to find out how many of your extensions are, but couldn't query for it. Tasks to exterminate Java could be Easy Hacks or Gsoc projects or whatever. Almost no one is working in any of your Java code, so porting could improve things. The port is just the start. This page has a lot of Java examples, and only one Python example: http://api.libreoffice.org/examples/examples.html. I looked through the Python code, and it wasn't a very helpful introduction. I can also imagine a number of new Python extensions that could be bundled by default. For example, it would be great to ship with a plugin that adds a right-click menu which displays the Wiktionary definition in a pretty little dialog box. It would also be nice to have something which allows me to query Flickr for high-res CC images to put into a doc / presentation. People can switch to their web browser, download the file, and insert it, but it can be automated. My local tech website recently published an article about a Seattle company making presentation software for tablets: http://www.geekwire.com/2013/haiku-deck-20-charts-graphs-lists-presentations-easier/ It is a nice and simple app, but the killer feature is the ability to query for CC images. Free software should do a better job than proprietary software for integrating free content and services! I hope any of this is helpful. I'd be happy to add text to wiki pages or create bugs, but I don't know what all the workitems would be other than that you've got 100s of thousands of lines of Java. Warm regards, -Keith
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