Interesting to know some background on this. Nonetheless, I think there is a void to be filled; as I said early, diversity can help us, no? I understand there's the issue of achieving and maintaining molarity of interested persons, a point Christina made earlier, but I don't think we're running that risk here. In fact, I think we can reach out to many more people by setting up shop with a label different from FC.org/SFFC, which would operate in addition to it.

Since it was Crosbie's idea, I'm going to wait awhile, offering him the initiative. I googled for "artists for free culture" and got zero hits. That's bad! I'd like to buy the domain name www.artistsforfreeculture.org and get things moving.

But for the time being, I say we defer to Crosbie's initiative. What say you, good sir?

Conor

MJ Ray wrote:
"Fred Benenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Crosbie: why not consider an organization such as iCommons which has much
broader goals and membership?
    

I can't speak for Crosbie, but I think Crosbie is on this list mainly
for the same reason I am, because freeculture-UK was closed down in
its favour.  As I understand it, iCommons has anti-commercialism
written into its foundations (thereby closing it off from artists who
need to make money from their free culture creations), uses hum-votes
to makes decisions and doesn't record its meetings.

If there must be another "open and free culture" group, then we'll get
there eventually, but there's a natural desire to avoid duplication of
overheads.  It's disappointing to see so many missed opportunities and
this vital task left to telling the Crosbies of this world to go DIY,
instead of incorporating their support into your efforts.

Hope that explains,
  
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