Erm.. Nelson, didn't Fred also send this event to the list yesterday at 2253 (BST) - with the subject line "[FC-discuss] Fwd: Google v. Viacom Tomorrow". Am curious to know why one instance is apparently grounds for a banning, and not the other....
Cheers! Tim On 26 Oct 2007, at 08:33, Nelson Pavlosky wrote: > Sorry Jay, but you did promise to stop posting notices of local events > to this global discussion list, and I don't think that this is of > interest to people outside New York City. You're banned from > posting again. > > If anyone is interested in continuing to see Jay's NYC local posts, > please join <http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nyc> and > talk about NYC things there! > > Peace, > ~Nelson~ > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I resend a notice from Fred Benenson, head of NYU Free Culture >> Club. The notice of this important action at law is appended. >> >> Personal Note: >> >> Listening to and seeing such a case argued before a judge is >> seldom boring. If you go you will likely be astonished at more >> than one thing. >> >> Appearing at court to listen, and to learn, is important. It is >> also important that we show up so that the other side knows that >> we will not lose this engagement by default. Speak to reporters. >> Reporters are usually intelligent and usually want to learn, but >> often they are remarkably ignorant. A careful clarity of >> expression, and a gentle stroking of the flanks, will sometimes >> loosen a bit the grip of The Official Story on the mind of the >> reporter. >> >> Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Corresponding Secretary LXNY >> LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization. >> http://www.lxny.org >> >> >> <blockquote >> what="notice of time and date of court action"> >> >> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:53:59 -0400 >> From: "Fred Benenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: "Free Culture @ NYU's list serv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [free-culture] Google v. Viacom Tomorrow >> Reply-To: "Fred Benenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Free Culture @ NYU, >> >> So one of the benefits of living in a self-proclaimed democracy >> is that at least some of the court trials are mostly open to the >> public. That means that when Viacom sues Google for ONE BILLION >> DOLLARS over YouTube's "infinite amount of infringement" we're >> allowed to sit in on all the court room antics. >> >> I attended the first (and last, as far as I can tell) hearing and >> it was a scheduling hearing. Despite a stern warning from my >> lawyer friends that the hearing would be immensely boring, I >> really enjoyed it. The two sides ended up getting into their >> arguments in a very inappropriate and entertaining way. >> >> Now, I have no idea whether tomorrow will have the same kind of >> fireworks, but I am certainly intending on being there. There >> were mostly reporters and lawyers (especially one lawyer who kept >> on sneering when Google would say stuff like "How are we supposed >> to take responsibility for an 'infinite amount of >> infringement?'") last time and I felt a little out of place with >> a t-shirt, so you might consider wearing something nice if you >> don't want to feel awkward. >> >> Anyway, here's the information: >> >> Google v. Viacom <http://news.justia.com/cases/337988/> >> 4pm, Friday October 26th 2007 >> Room 21C >> Judge Louis L. Stanton >> United States Courthouse >> 500 Pearl Street<http://www.justia.com/us-states/new-york/courts/ >> southern/district_court/main-office.html> >> New York, NY 10007-1312*Phone:* 212-805-0136 >> >> If anyone wants to meet up, I'll be outside (or maybe in the >> lobby if its >> really going to rain) around 3:30. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Fred Benenson >> President, Free Culture @ NYU >> >> </blockquote> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
