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I'll make a post on CC's mailing list to see if there are any relevant resources or precedents. To make the case for CC in the independent sector, can we call it "socially-responsible licensing"? Amanda Bergson-Shilcock wrote: > Fred makes a good point. Another issue is that nonprofits, especially in the > social services, are often being told by their funders to "do more with less" > and to "create earned income streams". Both of these exhortations tend to > reinforce a scarcity mentality that feeds a "We must hold on to our rights at > all costs!" line of thinking. The idea of "giving something away" via CC > feels like giving up revenue, even if the organization is selling very few > copies under traditional copyright, or (more likely) hasn't even gotten > organized enough to sell its photos/videos at all. > > Actually, that can be even worse -- the imaginary revenue of "If we could > just sell some of our ___" makes it psychologically hard for the organization > to embrace a free culture philosophy, even when the organization's mission > has nothing to do with selling anything and it's wildly unlikely that they're > going to start, say, a big T-shirt business. > > I work for a nonprofit organization and just recently used two CC-licensed > photos I found on Flickr in our e-mail newsletter. I view this as a very mild > kind of evangelism, because I had the opportunity to share a little bit about > CC with my colleagues (who are unfamiliar with it) and because having a photo > credit in our newsletter that explicitly references CC is a little bit of > consciousness-raising for the folks alert enough to read it. > > -Amanda > > On Wednesday, November 14, 2007, at 07:53PM, "Fred Beneson" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think WITNESS is a good example of this... Their default license is >> BY-NC. >> >> I work with a lot of non-profits who like the idea of CC but honestly >> don't have the time or resources to convert their content to it. Isn't >> it easy to cc license work, isn't that the point?, you may ask. >> >> Good question, but most nonprofits don't have in house lawyers and the >> ones they work with are on borrowed/probono time and its too precious >> to determine whether they have the proper rights to release their old >> content under cc (think copyright fraud). The trick I've found is to >> offer your time (see my work with rhizome.org this summer) to help >> them do it right rather than demand for them to do it for you. >> >> But on the other hand, it may just require a generational shift in the >> management of these nonprofits. A lot of them are run by dedicated >> lifers who are not as comfortable with the Internet as we might be. >> >> Just remember, volunteering for a cash and time strapped non profit >> can go a long way in convincing them of the benefits of free culture. >> >> F >> >> On Nov 14, 2007, at 7:31 PM, "William Norton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> That's a really good point. It makes a lot of sense to advocate CC >>> in the non-profit arena. It's just so much of a shift for >>> commercial organizations to understand how to use CC compared to >>> ARR. I imagine CC would be much more successful if it could gain a >>> large foothold with non-profits such that proprietary groups can see >>> the kind of audiences that can be explored by loosening their >>> control. This would also give CC more of an opportunity to >>> experiment with new flavors to work more effectively for the >>> commercial sector. >>> >>> ---- >>> Wm >>> >>> >>> On Nov 14, 2007 5:49 PM, Brian Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> There are a lot of public interest organizations that are using All >>> Rights Reserved when they really want their message to get out to as >>> many people as possible. I think that engaging non-profits and >>> educating them about the advantages of using CC would be a good idea >>> for SFFC. >>> >>> I am running a panel on nonprofit copyright in New Orleans this >>> coming March for NTEN's Nonprofit Technology Conference. I may be >>> looking for additional speakers. >>> >>> Brian Rowe >>> 2L Seattle University >>> >>> >>> On Nov 14, 2007 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> "(c) ACLU, 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 1000" >>> >>> First, we need to get the ACLU to start using CC licenses. Second, we >>> need to get documentarians and public TV to use them as well, so that >>> more people can have access to the work they create and broadcast. >>> >>> Then this might be actually be related to FC. ;) >>> >>> On 11/14/07, William Norton < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Under this sort of reasoning almost any educational or First >>> Amendment issue >>>> could be grouped under the Free Culture category. I can't imagine >>> it would >>>> be useful to have such a broad mission for this organization. The >>> NOVA >>>> special was very interesting, though. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 12, 2007 7:25 PM, Peter Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> At 7:48 PM -0500 11/12/07, Fred Benenson wrote: >>>>>> Hi, I know this seems like something most people on this list >>> might >>>>>> be interested in, but it's really not on topic with respect to >>> Free >>>>>> Culture, so it's really not appropriate for this list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope you understand & Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Fred >>>>> I understand that it's borderline, and has an argument against >>> it that it >>>>> could start an argument about the merits of ID, which definitely >>> would be >>>>> off-topic. >>>>> >>>>> But consider the situation in which you live in a theocracy where >>>> religious >>>>> tenets are deployed routinely to interfere with science. Such >>> theocracies >>>>> exist, but the United States is not one of them. Nevertheless, >>> for >>>> someone >>>>> in that situation interference with science in this fashion is >>> as much a >>>> free >>>>> culture issue as open access to knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> (I will now step off my soapbox :-) >>>>> >>>>> peter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Rowe >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> (206) 335-8577 (Cell) >>> >>> Access To Justice Technology Principles >>> www.ATJWeb.org >>> >>> Freedom for IP >>> www.FreedomforIP.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss - -- Gavin Baker http://www.gavinbaker.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHO7CHtLXQdLhFpekRAsYcAJ0eJwpwsoHNuCqslRqo43Tsbm1jPQCeN75W OCWbMw+sGxX0SGJt4INJFJY= =wuJX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
