Just a heads up to everyone about this issue: There is a discussion happening in #freeculture on irc.freenode.net
Best, Greg Not speaking as a CC intern ;) Steren wrote: > I was introduced to the US Free Culture movement earlier this summer. > As far as I can see, I totally share your views but when it comes to > decisions and actions, I must reckon I'm lost. > I think there is a lack of constructive initiative. Obviously, this > could change easily starting by this mailing list. There are topics > and people have to stick to them. > > Steren > Creative Commons Intern > Lyon, France. > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Tim Hwang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'd have to agree, I think alot of constructive potential projects >> that could've really moved Students for Free Culture forward in the >> past year or so have basically been quashed by dealing with Crosbie's >> general attitude and trolling on the list (have you checked your FC >> list archives yet? I have -- it's *ridiculous*) In fact, I've largely >> moved to lurking on this list and reducing my involvement because this >> forum's generally been mired in unproductive and off-topic attacks. >> >> I'd move to at least get the list in something of a more moderated >> mode. I think this is extra relevant too, as we start moving towards >> the conference in October and looking forward getting some bigger >> constructive initiatives launched. >> >> Best, >> Tim >> >> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Brian Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> During the chapter meeting this Sunday it was mentioned that we should not >>> take some issues to the general discussion list because it is "too >>> polarizing." The Free Culture mailing list has has transformed over the >>> past 2 years from a place where FC ideas could be discussed freely to a >>> forum where people do not speak up for fear of flaming. This is a call to >>> return the list to a place where topics can be discussed without flames. >>> >>> I am asking three things: >>> 1. Threads stay on topic - no more turning a video awards posts into NC >>> freedom posts or FF3 posts into whining about the bylaws. >>> 2. General whining needs to stop >>> 3. Flaming needs to stop >>> >>> Transparent moderation may be needed to accomplish this. >>> >>> This means that people who are here to argue and complain constantly should >>> find another place to do that. I am not just speaking in generalities; >>> Crosbie has done the most whining, flaming and off topic ranting over the >>> last year. I think he should seriously reconsider his goals and move on. >>> FC should consider banning him from the list if his presence continues to >>> discourage friendly academic and activist discussion. >>> >>> I am not a board member, a founder or a core team member. I am general >>> member, a chapter founder, and a FC activist. I want to be part of a >>> grassroots community where we can work together to win the free culture >>> fight. The first step is reclaiming the FC list. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Brian Rowe >>> Students for Free Culture >>> 3L Seattle University Law >>> -- >>> Brian Rowe >>> Legal Intern >>> Creative Commons >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> (206) 335-8577 (Cell) >>> >>> Access To Justice Technology Principles >>> www.ATJWeb.org >>> >>> Freedom for IP >>> www.FreedomforIP.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
