"Brian Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> During the chapter meeting this Sunday it was mentioned that we should not
> take some issues to the general discussion list because it is "too
> polarizing."  The Free Culture mailing list has has transformed over the
> past 2 years from a place where FC ideas could be discussed freely to a
> forum where people do not speak up for fear of flaming.  This is a call to
> return the list to a place where topics can be discussed without flames.

I've not noticed that, but I've not been reading many threads here
recently.  I suspect that some issues become polarised because of the
polemic or uncritical ways they're introduced here.  This thread is
probably going to be one like that. :-(

> I am asking three things:
> 1.  Threads stay on topic - no more turning a video awards posts into NC
> freedom posts or FF3 posts into whining about the bylaws.
> 2.  General whining needs to stop
> 3.  Flaming needs to stop

I'd add:-

4. Let's agree a more specific topic/charter and put it on
http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss - you can't
criticise people for going off-topic if no-one has agreed the topic -
also, some of us were imported here from fcuk-discuss;

5. no personal messages on the mailing list - unsetting Reply-To would
reduce that by making it easier to reply off-list;

6. Imposition of US cultural norms needs to stop ;-)

> Transparent moderation may be needed to accomplish this.

Agreed.  One lead moderator, two assistants, with actions announced in
administrivia posts to the list and some mechanism to reverse bad
decisions.

> This means that people who are here to argue and complain constantly should
> find another place to do that.  I am not just speaking in generalities;
> Crosbie has [...]

Way to start a flamewar!  Personal attacks!  Yay!

[runs for fireproof bunker]

FWIW, I've not noticed Crosbie Fitch being particularly offensive, but
posts of Crosbie Fitch do seem to contain the same sort of messages,
so I don't usually reply in detail to them.  We know where we stand
and how unmovable we are.

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