> You would still need to distribute the
> metadata that tells the player where to play audio over the video.

Nope, I'd just need to distribute a single audio soundtrack that plays  
over the entire pre-synched audio already on the DVD.

The DVD will have its own synched soundtrack, which will consist of  
the current soundtrack with all the contentious songs removed. Instead  
of just silence in these gaps, I will include new narration explaining  
why each song is absent, the title, who owns it, what synch rights  
are, that the songs can be heard on the "Sounds of Sita Sings the  
Blues" audio disc, what rights consumers have to play audio and video,  
and other related issues of copyright and free culture.

>  I'm sure the recording companies would find
> some way to put a stop to the legal distribution of your film if you
> used the insyncherator method.  Perhaps they wouldn't do it for your
> particular film, but if it became popular enough with filmmakers and
> the recording companies were not earning as much as they would from
> selling synch rights, they would probably try something.  While courts
> often make good decisions, they can also be blind-sided by big
> companies that twist the law to their advantage (MDY v Blizzard is a
> good example [4]).

Maybe so. It would be a very worthy fight. And it could get lots of  
mileage long before such a fight began. But don't be so sure this  
would end up in court at all.

> The real solution here is to tell the unreasonable recording companies
> to get lost and go to Jamendo or other sources of libre music if you
> need something for a film.


What if you need 1920's Annette Hanshaw recordings for a film? All  
music isn't interchangeable, you know. As I wrote* at
http://blog.ninapaley.com/2008/08/26/music-industry-on-culture-killing-spree/
:
"...To the well-meaning ignoramuses who keep sending me helpful emails  
telling me to “just swap out the music”: shame on you. I know you mean  
well, but you should actually watch the movie before telling an artist  
to destroy a work of art in order to satisfy extortionists. Your  
advice only confirms the artistic and moral bankruptcy of the movie  
business. Beyond that, the authentic songs from the 20’s make a point  
inherent to the film, which fakes inherently cannot make - possibly  
there’s a Fair Use argument there. But my first point is more  
important."

*Please don't take my hostile tone personally, this was written  
towards industry apologists, not you!

> It would be if not for these legal issues I pointed out.  If I'm
> incorrect and they are not problematic, I would be happy to be proven
> wrong.

I'm eager to do so! Who wants to help?

--Nina

On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Denver Gingerich wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Nina Paley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Of course I'd rather distribute them in synch. But currently there's
>> no regulation of synch licenses, placing my film - many films - at  
>> the
>> mercy of corporations like Warner-Chappell and Sony. They are under  
>> no
>> obligation to license anything, they can charge whatever they want,
>> set whatever terms they want. They can block the release of content.
>> They can and do kill films.
>>
>> But they can't stop the consumer from synching at home. Yes, it's a
>> pain - but a player could make it much less of a pain. And it has  
>> huge
>> potential for independent filmmakers. That is a very big deal.
>
> Now that I think about it a bit more, I'm not sure that this player
> would solve your issue.  You would still need to distribute the
> metadata that tells the player where to play audio over the video.
> From my limited understanding of synchronization rights, distributing
> that metadata would be illegal because the metadata constitutes the
> synchronization.  I'd be interested to hear what a lawyer would say
> about this.
>
> Putting this detail aside, I'm sure the recording companies would find
> some way to put a stop to the legal distribution of your film if you
> used the insyncherator method.  Perhaps they wouldn't do it for your
> particular film, but if it became popular enough with filmmakers and
> the recording companies were not earning as much as they would from
> selling synch rights, they would probably try something.  While courts
> often make good decisions, they can also be blind-sided by big
> companies that twist the law to their advantage (MDY v Blizzard is a
> good example [4]).
>
>> Try to see this from a filmmaker's perspective. Filmmakers are told,
>> "don't touch that music." Documentarians are just barely finding  
>> their
>> way around synch rights hell thanks to Fair Use, but there are many
>> ways to use music in film that haven't been defended as Fair Use yet.
>> Most filmmakers have already "internalized the permission culture,"
>> and kill their ideas before they're born. But not all of us. A multi-
>> source media player - let's call it an insyncherator - would give
>> artists one more reason to think outside the permission culture.
>
> The real solution here is to tell the unreasonable recording companies
> to get lost and go to Jamendo or other sources of libre music if you
> need something for a film.  We need to send a message to the recording
> companies that they don't own everything by using and promoting the
> things they don't own (and, preferably, use libre licenses).
>
> It is unfortunate that creators have been betrayed by their recording
> companies, but it is partly their fault for signing away their rights.
> We need creators to stop selling themselves to recording companies.
> Only when control is relinquished from the hands of those whose only
> objective is money can we have reasonable dealings with rights
> holders.
>
>> Yes, it's a pain. And frankly, pre-synched versions of "Sita" will
>> surely be "pirated" and circulating before this grand scheme could
>> come to fruition. But what a great alternative! What a way to raise
>> awareness, too.
>
> It would be if not for these legal issues I pointed out.  If I'm
> incorrect and they are not problematic, I would be happy to be proven
> wrong.
>
> Denver
>
>
> 4. 
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080715-popular-wow-automation-tool-infringes-blizzards-copyright.html

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