> Even if your solution is legal, it still doesn't make synchronization
> easy for films in general.

Not easy, but much easier - for some cases - than it is now.

>  From what I understand of mechanical
> licenses, you have to make your own recording of the composition (or
> hope there is a public domain recording),

Bingo! Lots of Public Domain recordings out there people can't use in  
films because of synch licenses. This is a very big problem.

No Annette Hanshaw recordings (mostly from the late 1920's) are  
protected by federal copyright law. The worst-case scenario is they  
might  technically be covered by an old NY state law which predates  
the Federal copyright laws, which after several rounds of fine-tooth  
combing by student attorneys at Washington University's Glushko- 
Samuelson Intellectual Property Law Clinic, seems could only restrict  
their release within New York State.


> which provides disincentive
> to use the insyncherator method.

Not a disincentive, just a greater incentive for some projects than  
others.

It's ironic to find myself arguing against your pessimism, because I'm  
usually so pessimistic (or "realistic," as I like to say). But I see a  
real ray of sunshine here, and hope to open your eyes to it.

--Nina


It's really great for public
On Sep 7, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Denver Gingerich wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Nina Paley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Nope, I'd just need to distribute a single audio soundtrack that  
>>> plays
>>> over the entire pre-synched audio already on the DVD.
>>
>> That looks confusing on re-reading. What I mean is, the audio  
>> soundtrack
>> wouldn't need to be broken into pieces to dop one here and another  
>> there. It
>> would be a complete soundtrack. The player would play it over the  
>> audio
>> that's already on the DVD. The audio on the DVD (the "pre-synched"  
>> audio)
>> would omit all the contentious songs, replacing them with spoken  
>> information
>> about pertinent free culture issues.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>
> Yes, it makes sense.  Your solution does not require explicit timing
> metadata because the required data is implicitly contained in the
> timing of the songs placed on the CD (or audio DVD).
>
> I'm still not sure that this solves the legal issue because the songs
> would be intentionally placed in a particular order with particular
> timings so that they would align with the video.  Thus, the soundtrack
> would constitute a synchronization.
>
> I tried to find specific parts of US copyright law that spell out
> precisely what synchronization rights are, but I was unsuccessful.  If
> someone could point out the section and subsection where they are
> described, it would be appreciated.  It would be easier to talk about
> what is and is not a synchronization when we have the written law in
> front of us.  I've been making my arguments on assumptions about
> synchronization rights based on how you've described them and what I
> know of copyright law.
>
>> Also, I wouldn't sell the DVD. I would sell the CD (actually an  
>> Audio DVD,
>> subject to exactly the same mechanical licenses as CD, but able to  
>> hold more
>> music. The soundtrack is 82 minutes, while CDs only hold 74 minutes  
>> of
>> audio). I would sell the soundtrack, "The Sounds of Sita Sings the  
>> Blues."
>> And it would come with a free bonus video disc, like lots of CDs  
>> and Audio
>> DVDs already do:
>> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=bonus+video&x=0&y=0
>
> It sounds like you're trying to get around the synchronization problem
> by making it look like there is no synchronization.  Maybe the law
> allows for your particular solution (ie. if it says something about
> synchronizations "distributed on the same physical medium"), but I
> kind of doubt it.  We could know for sure (or at least have less
> ambiguity) if we found the part of US copyright law that deals with
> it.
>
>
> Even if your solution is legal, it still doesn't make synchronization
> easy for films in general.  From what I understand of mechanical
> licenses, you have to make your own recording of the composition (or
> hope there is a public domain recording), which provides disincentive
> to use the insyncherator method.
>
> Denver

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