On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Brian Rowe wrote:

> What would you like to see as your ideal grassroots, general public, 
> international FC org?

Brian, I like your vision.  In a sense, it's almost too inclusive - what a 
huge amount of work this would be!  You'd need lots of people or a few 
mind-blowingly-efficient yet organized and friendly people to manage it.

That's not to dissuade - I would *love* to see this.

> Major Activities:
> 1. Alliance building - willing to work with other orgs to coordinate
> campaigns
> 2. Political activism -  campaigns where members can take action
> 3. Act as an umbrella organization that would help foster smaller projects
> and provide assistance to fledgling FC related ideas
> 4. Outreach and education at middle schools, high schools, colleges,
> technology summits, conferences professional and academic
> 5. Direct media contact over current issues

I think this is pretty great; the focus on outreach and smaller projects 
would be great for any organization like this, and helps make the projects 
a feasible size!

> Policies:
> 1. Strongly recommend PD, BY or freedom defined licenses
> 2. the organization exclusively uses PD or BY for all publications
> 3. Strongly recommend Free Open Source Software on all platforms with a
> preference for Linux (or other open OS)
> 4. The organization should set an example in its own software choices
> 5. Promotion of data portability for Web applications
> 6. Promotion of open standards

Sure.  But there's always this sticky trade-off between promoting what is 
Good and Just, and using evil slick tools (like proprietary hosted web 
applications) to achieve short-term needs.  Students for Free Culture is 
not the one true shining example here, but I'd say we've done a fairly 
good job of putting our actions where our mouths are.

Again - not to say you can't, just something I hope you'll keep in mind 
down the road, when someone offers you a slick hosted service for social 
networking (call it "Facebook") - do you use it to speak out against it, 
or just to speak out in favor or your organization?  Do you ditch it 
entirely, losing out on potential access to people?  (Earlier, it was the 
same story for patented codecs on YouTube - use YouTube and be a 
sell-out, or don't use YouTube and miss out on audience.)

Tough questions, but that's life in a non-free world trying to promote the 
Free World! (-:

> Governance:
> 1.  NPO 501c3 or charitable org
> 2.  Member driven (funded at least in part through memberships)
> 3.  Board of directors which includes input from general members. Maybe 1 or
> 2 elected or appointed position on the board that represent member
> perspectives.
> 4.  Membership level of "Volunteer" where one can donate time instead of
> cash to become a member
> 5.  Open investments - the community should be assured that all org
> investments are in places that are compatible with the mission
> 6.  Publicly Open Board meetings for all matters except emergencies and
> personal decisions.

Great.  Presumably some financial matters may be closed, such as where 
anonymous donors are involved.

> Ideas to help start:
> Challenge pledge the way Open Rights Group (ORG) was founded
> Merging a few existing fledgling orgs under central leadership

Whoa, who do you have in mind to get merged?

> Things to avoid:
> 1. Direct Litigation - EFF and ACLU are doing well here and the cost is very
> high.  I would limit legal action to policy papers and *amici briefs*
> 2. PAC Money - We can't change the system through buying representatives.

Great!

> General comments:
> This outline is heavily influenced by my work on Freedom for IP and WSBA's
> Access to Justice Committee.  Please feel free to make any comments,
> suggestions or critisims.

I just want to bring up another data point: Students for Free Culture 
tried to "go legit" and incorporate and go 501(c)3; we finished the first 
step three years ago, and then it expired, and then now we're still 
working on both despite Board elections with officers promising to succeed 
at both of those things.

(BTW, the mission statement and web site always said I think: 
"FreeCulture.org: a student movement for [something or other]".)

I bring up the SFC example here because it takes some dedication and 
persistence to achieve that "legit" status, and once you have it you're 
going to start needing full-time people just to repeatedly be persistent 
on those sorts of things.

Debian, for example, has decided ages ago to stay an informal 
organization.  A separate entity, Software in the Public Interest, is an 
umbrella Free Software non-profit that helps out Debian among many 
projects, handling donations for example.

To reach the kinds of goals you want, I would suggest starting by doing 
things, and only after you show you can succeed as a bunch of excited 
people repeatedly doing great stuff, then work on incorporating.

More than a year ago, the Harvard conference was pratically overrun by 
people I would then have termed "grown-ups" interested in Free Culture 
issues.  I remember chatting with Nelson and Gavin about what to do about 
"Grown-Ups for Free Culture" or even with SFC alumni; there was some 
discussion of it, but as far as I know no concrete, lasting steps came of 
those movements.

About one year ago, MJ Ray suggested freeculture.net be used to start an 
"open social network" - I replied with enthusiasm and questions about next 
steps <http://freeculture.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-October/001640.html> 
and I don't think we have proceeded from that.

The idea was revisited by Matt Agnello at 
http://freeculture.org/pipermail/discuss/2008-May/002207.html not quite 
half a year ago.

So there is some interest.  I think the real question is what would catch 
people and make them participate.  I think the way to address is to lead 
by example; build something that people would be proud to be a part of, 
and the rest will be natural.

(I am very curious to hear stories of why people started their chapters, 
and in fact, why people got involved in the original "Why War?"-related 
Diebold memo distribution in 2003.)

-- Asheesh.

-- 
The older I grow, the less important the comma becomes.  Let the reader
catch his own breath.
                -- Elizabeth Clarkson Zwart
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