I'm really not talking about free vs open. I promise. I clearly am on RMS's side when it comes to openwashing, but that's not at all what I'm trying to get at.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Alex Leavitt <[email protected]> wrote: > The practical use behind the rhetorical strategy in using the term 'free' > in 'free culture' is an extension from Richard Stallman's emphasis on using > 'free software' over 'open-source software.' > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html > > If you haven't read this article, I think this is probably *the* starting > point for this conversation. > > Unless you want to really dive into Lessig's argumentation of using the > term 'free': http://www.free-culture.cc/freeculture.pdf Check p. 30: > "Free cultures are cultures that leave a great deal open for others > to build upon; unfree, or permission, cultures leave much less. Ours was > a free culture. It is becoming much less so." > > Alex > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Patrick Anderson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Kẏra wrote: >> > How does that actually address any of the issues in the original post? >> >> Oh, I thought you were looking for a new term to replace "free culture". >> >> Freedom isn't Free, and ass you say, the word Free sounds too chaotic >> and without rules. >> >> To me, the word Freedom sounds like level-headed liberation brought >> about by a set of carefully defined constraints such as those enforced >> by the GNU GPL. >> >> For example I think "Freedom Software" is better than "Free Software" >> because the word "Freedom" makes the recipient unsure of the >> implications instead of assuming the program is Freeware or malware, >> or if your are not careful, it may even sound like the offering is an >> illegal distribution of proprietary software (hey buddy, you want some >> *Free* software?). >> >> So I think the word Free is tainted beyond use, whereas the word >> Freedom can probably be useful. >> >> >> > the proposed term refers to a broader culture >> > of freedom without defining the actual freedom. >> >> Ok, here is my definition of "actual freedom": >> >> Freedom requires users control the Source of all the products they use. >> >> For example, the milk-drinker must have control (probably >> co-ownership) in the dairy where that milk comes from. >> >> Doing this for all goods and services will allow us to finally have >> control of our food supply, our cell-phone networks, our ISPs, our >> healthcare, our housing, etc. >> >> So User Freedom requires Source Control. >> >> Sincerely, >> Patrick Anderson >> http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss > > -- Board of Directors, Students for Free Culture: www.freeculture.org Blog: http://thesilentnumber.me - StatusNet Microblog: http://identi.ca/kxra Email: [email protected] - SMS: +1.617.340.3661 Jabber/XMPP: [email protected] - IRC: kxra @freenode @oftc @indymedia
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