Thanks for the response Jake. You still give me far too much credit
though. I have no idea how to go about using "Makefile". What is it?
I assume its not an OS X application with a simple GUI. Do I use the
Terminal? If so, what do I type? A google search reveals more
baffling command-line discussion that is still "way over there" on
the other side of my knowledge gap.
My experience with the command line is limited to copy and pasting
from detailed tutorials to get a job done, then I breathe a sigh of
relief and quit Terminal with no idea what I did but happy that it
seemed to work. If "Makefile" can't be explained in this way then I
guess I (and others of my knowledge level) am not going to be able to
keep up to date with jQuery like I really want to.
I don't know anyone that does web design/development that would
understand how to use Makefile or Ant, so it seems to me that this
may put potential converts off.
Joel.
On 01/10/2006, at 2:30 PM, Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ wrote:
> I saw ant, and since I hadn't anted on this machine,,, I figured try
> the old fashioned Makefile... it's missing a line @66 to create the
> test/js directory.... out of the box it does all the make features
> except test.... pretty good start!
>
> @66
> @@mkdir -p ${TEST_DIR}/js
>
> Skip the ant if you are not an ant-head (no offense intended)... I'm
> an old fashioned make-head!
>
>
> On 9/30/06, Joel Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi folks!
>>
>> I am a graphic designer who has taught myself web development over
>> the last few years. I have been using jQuery for the behaviour layer
>> of a site since maybe March this year and absolutely love it. From a
>> Mac-oriented, drag and drop,user-friendly perspective, jQuery makes
>> javascript like it just "should be".
>>
>> However, I find the Subversion stuff very hard to grasp. Am I right
>> that we actually need to use the command line (gasp!) for much of
>> this? I have given John Resig's help steps my best shot but didn't
>> quite get there. Step 1, install JRE, I went to that address but had
>> no idea which download was for me so instead I assumed that Mac OS X
>> would already have the right version installed. Step 2, I downloaded
>> Ant and found the 'lib' and 'bin' folders and copied them to a folder
>> as instructed at that site. I chose a folder named Ant that I created
>> in my Applications folder. I didn't know what to do after that. The
>> "install instructions" do not help me as they assume that I have a
>> greater understanding of what is going on than I do:
>>
>>> * Add the bin directory to your path.
>> How do I do this?
>>
>>> * Set the ANT_HOME environment variable to the directory where
>>> you installed Ant. On some operating systems the ant wrapper
>>> scripts can guess ANT_HOME (Unix dialects and Windows NT/2000) -
>>> but it is better to not rely on this behavior.
>> I am getting the feeling that I am supposed to know how to do this -
>> probably in the command line?
>>
>>> * Optionally, set the JAVA_HOME environment variable (see the
>>> Advanced section below). This should be set to the directory where
>>> your JDK is installed.
>> Again - I'm lost.
>>
>> I am obviously missing something here - can we not just have some
>> sort of friendly web interface that retrieves the latest version of
>> jQuery and whatever else this "Ant build" gives you? This seems like
>> a high barrier to entry considering the potential demographic that
>> jQuery is aimed at (web designers and developers).
>>
>> The more I think about it the more I realise I am missing something
>> here - especially as no-one else seems bothered by this. I understand
>> what software developers use SVN for but do not understand why the
>> general user of the software is required to set up all these Java/
>> Apache/Ant/SVN technologies just to retrieve an up-to-date version to
>> use.
>>
>> Thanks for your time and sorry for the long post.
>>
>> Joel.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17/08/2006, at 7:24 AM, John Resig wrote:
>>
>>> Step 1:
>>> Go to this page and download and install "Java Runtime Environment
>>> (JRE) 5.0":
>>> http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
>>>
>>> Step 2:
>>> Download and install Apache Ant:
>>> http://ant.apache.org/bindownload.cgi
>>>
>>> Step 3:
>>> Go to the jQuery directory and type 'ant'. You now have a compiled
>>> version of jQuery, the documentation, and the test suite.
>>>
>>> Steps 2 & 3 Change depending if you're using Ant or the Makefile.
>>> Since jQuery now includes the Ant build file, it's much easier to
>>> simply use that (and more cross-platform). For UNIX-type people,
>>> like
>>> myself, I'll just see the Makefile, type Make, and be done with it.
>>>
>>> I recommend that you check out the new, updated, README file in
>>> jQuery
>>> SVN - as it explains this whole process.
>>>
>>> --John
>>>
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>>>
>>
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