I like the idea of notebooks more than I like actual notebooks. I tried to use 
them in my analyses for a long time, but eventually gave up as there are too 
many small annoyances (some that the talk goes over, others that it does not, 
such as the fact that they do not integrate well with git).

For teaching, I still think they work well, especially in a short setting like 
a carpentries course (as opposed to a semester-long course). However, it 
requires a lot of time to make a good tutorial in Jupyter, more than what I 
used before, which was a mix of slides and interactive typing on ipython.

My feeling (and I may be wrong) is that Jupyter notebooks are seen as a 
best-practice and people are very happy when I tell them my tutorial will be a 
jupyter notebook (which just incentives me to keep using jupyter notebooks in 
tutorials). I may be interpreting the feeling wrong or that people are wrong 
for congratulating me on using jupyter.

Just my 2 cents,
Luis


On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, at 10:47 PM, Konrad Förstner wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> these are the slide of Joel Grus' Jupyter Con talk "I Don't Like
> Notebooks":
> 
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1n2RlMdmv1p25Xy5thJUhkKGvjtV-dkAIsUXP-AL4ffI/edit#slide=id.g362da58057_0_1
> 
> Beside the fact that this talk is it really funny, it raises a lot of
> issues that I can confirm from my experience:
> 
> - hidden states
> - encouraging bad habits and discouraging good habits
> - less powerful help tooltip than in a proper IDEs
> - copy and paste between different media is hard
> 
> I personally really like Jupyter Notebooks for teaching (while it
> never made into my data analysis tool box) but this talked motivated
> me to rethink its usage and maybe I will try to jump earlier than
> before into a proper IDE when I am teaching Python. Anaconda comes
> with Spyder so there is a good alternative already at hand.
> 
> I would be interested in hearing your thoughts regarding this.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Konrad
> 
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