Hi Jasmine, Miriam and I already know each other, though I didn’t know until this thread that she was embarking on this book. She knows how to find me!
~ Amy Amy E. Hodge, PhD Science Data Librarian [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 650.556.5194 Pronouns: she/her [signature_127676306] orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077<https://orcid.org/0000-0002-5902-3077> Data Management Services Branner Earth Sciences Library, 212 Mitchell 397 Panama Mall; MC 2211 Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305 From: "Brooks Kieffer, Elizabeth Jamene" <[email protected]> Reply-To: discuss <[email protected]> Date: Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:07 AM To: discuss <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [discuss] looking for carpentry members interested in developing e-book Hi Miriam, As you and your colleague consider editing this resource, I encourage you to get in touch with the data services group at Stanford’s library if you haven’t already done so (https://library.stanford.edu/research/data-management-services/contact-us). They may be able to point you to existing Data Management materials that would help you avoid reinventing this particular wheel. While there are certainly nuances for how each discipline manages its data, there are basic principles that apply across the board and there is a great deal of existing (free and paid) material out there already. In particular, I recommend the book “Data Management for Researchers” by Kristin Briney (Pelagic Publishing, 2015) – an excellent resource for researchers in STEM fields and useful for all disciplines. In full disclosure, the author is a professional colleague, but I would recommend this book regardless. Best regards, Jamene Jamene Brooks-Kieffer Data Services Librarian University of Kansas Libraries 785-864-5238 [email protected] she/her/hers From: Miriam Goodman <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 12:02 PM To: discuss <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [discuss] looking for carpentry members interested in developing e-book Dear all who have responded to my inquiry/solicitation for authors, Thank you for your thoughtful and challenging replies. I knew I was reaching out to the right community when I received these replies! To those who indicated interest: Thank you, I will return to you after exploring the GitBook option (see below). There are a few things I should have noted in my initial email. Please humor me while I add these things: 1. The publishers in this case are professional societies (rather than for-profit commercial entities) and the proceeds from the subscriptions support the activities of the Institute of Physics and The Biophysical Society. 2. Authors are paid a flat-fee for their contributions and that as an e-book there are opportunities to refresh and update the material. I will explore the GitBook option of simultaneous publication with the publisher (thanks Birgit!), as I was not aware of this format previously. Finally, as for whether or not this resource is needed at this time (which is a very important question. thanks Katrin!), our discussion revolved around the evolving landscape of graduate training in the US, which is shifting to a more skills-based training model. One of the key areas involves reproducibility and robustness. My colleagues and I reasoned that Data Management was a key skill to support these goals Further, we reasoned that a go-to book could assist faculty who are not expert practioners of DataManagement (most of us in Biophysics) incorporate this knowledge into our classrooms. Thank you so much for engaging with this inquiry. I have already learned a lot! -All the best, Miriam Goodman (Stanford) On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:58 PM Leinweber, Katrin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi all, > […] The e-books are offered by subscription by the IOP to libraries > (unfortunately) Please ask yourself about these offers: Is there really a need for yet more material, and/or particularly for this one? Do I want to help a company extract money from a public, educational institution? Am I getting paid for my efforts? If (any) no(t), you could still write what you want to write, but pour that effort into an OER so that no library has to pay for it. Or even better, help improve existing material: https://www.google.com/search<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch&data=02%7C01%7Cjamenebk%40ku.edu%7Cdbc909dc70c74b5a0a7208d72d6c036c%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637027814251058595&sdata=XvB%2FGg2KO8lb4gR3rta5rWMvIvcbvT7xQSL9CsMccOk%3D&reserved=0>? q=biophysics+%22data+management%22 As a lesson maintainer & instructor, I see outdated or sub-optimal details every time I read through one of _our_ lessons (not to mention others, not developed collaboratively). What the world definitely doesn't need to the Xth material, written under time pressure, edited & proof-read by just a few minds, and then sold. A more limited amount of material, but each honed & refined by more minds would be a lot more useful to learners. 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