Peter, and all

if you are interested:
https://carpentries-incubator.github.io/git-Rstudio-course/



-Paula



On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 07:35, Peter Humburg <[email protected]> wrote:

> We have started teaching a modified version of the R DC curriculum that
> teaches Git instead of SQL (because that seems to be more relevant to the
> majority of our audience). We rely entirely on the RStudio git GUI for
> this. Although that is a pretty limited interface but not having to learn
> an additional tool (or command line usage) helps to make git more
> accessible. Another change we have made is that we don't teach git as a
> separate lesson. There is a brief introduction to git but the majority of
> it is taught by demonstrating its use throughout the R part of the course.
> Based on feedback from the learners this has helped to reduce confusion and
> made git more accessible. Admittedly, the git part of the course covers
> only the very basics but the hope is that it will get a larger proportion
> of the learners to actually use git. I don't have any hard data on this but
> based on what they say immediately after the course, the proportion of
> participants who are considering using git certainly seems to be higher
> than after an SWC course that uses the standard git module.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> *Dr Peter Humburg*
>
> Statistician
>
> *Faculty of Human Sciences*
>
> AHH Level 5
>
> Macquarie University NSW 2109
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> T: +61 2 9850 9848
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> *From:* Brooks Kieffer, Elizabeth Jamene <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 October 2019 3:21 AM
> *To:* discuss <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [discuss] Insight on Data Carpentry and Git?
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I’m reading the Baker *et al* article about the initial instance of
> Library Carpentry (Baker, J., *et al*, (2016). Library Carpentry:
> Software skills training for library professionals. *LIBER Quarterly, 26*(3),
> 141–162. https://doi.org/10.18352/lq.10176
> <https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/b-LfCk815RCr8x1jU2B1k9?domain=doi.org>).
> In the Next Steps section, the authors mention learners’ struggles with Git
> during this workshop, and note that other curricula exclude Git because of
> its difficulty. Specifically: “…this is a finding of comparable training
> programmes and is a reason for Data Carpentry not teaching Git and GitHub”
> (p. 158).
>
>
>
> There isn’t a citation for the information about why Data Carpentry
> doesn’t teach Git and GitHub, and the Teal *et al* article describing
> Data Carpentry doesn’t mention Git (Teal, T. K., * et al*, (2015). Data
> Carpentry: Workshops to Increase Data Literacy for Researchers. *International
> Journal of Digital Curation*, *10*, 135–143.
> https://doi.org/10.2218/ijdc.v10i1.351
> <https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/tGVBClx1OYUA0Qp8f9VHEt?domain=doi.org>
> ).
>
>
>
> I would appreciate any insight and/or links to discussions specifically
> about this decision to exclude Git from Data Carpentry. I’m not interested
> in debating the decision. Rather, I’m working on a paper on teaching Git;
> documentation of this discussion would be helpful supporting information
> for the paper’s opening contention that Git is difficult to both teach and
> learn (something that’s not news to this group!).
>
>
>
> Thanks very much in advance,
>
> Jamene
>
>
>
> Jamene Brooks-Kieffer
>
> Data Services Librarian
>
> University of Kansas Libraries
>
> 785-864-5238
>
> [email protected]
>
> she/her/hers
>
>
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