Thanks, everyone, for your perspectives and memories about this decision for Data Carpentry. It makes sense that it was more a matter of priority-setting than content difficulty. I also appreciate your stories about adapting Carpentries content to account for learner motivation. Best, Jamene
Jamene Brooks-Kieffer Data Services Librarian University of Kansas Libraries 785-864-5238 [email protected] she/her/hers From: Deborah Paul <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:20 PM To: discuss <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [discuss] Insight on Data Carpentry and Git? Oooh,hm. I learned svn first. Then github (and briefly mercurial). I love Github Desktop :-) and the command line. Deb Sent from Shoe (my iPhone) On Oct 17, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Rohit Goswami <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: [Image removed by sender.]I'm not sure if this is the right place but I personally find github desktop to be even more confusing than the terminal. I feel that GUI abstracts away the way git works with files and I would it to be non intuitive. I wasn't pleased with the file listing and changes views either. However, I'm not sure how it looks to novices. --- [Image removed by sender. 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It started with my introduction to github desktop (https://github.com/elliewix/github-training-brain-dumps/blob/master/github_directions.md<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Felliewix%2Fgithub-training-brain-dumps%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fgithub_directions.md__%3B!5Xm4_O-4tfk!nK2a3ykh4nDLX44d8lw1uhw9hYkeUQs61TqpFd-96RFxi5wQa-7lfZNZ45qj0g%24&data=02%7C01%7Cjamenebk%40ku.edu%7Cdb2429d0b0674754cb7c08d7532ee623%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637069333211349849&sdata=sSnVHt9J5eteaR8DOWTbFlEIvd6m1fP%2BBhSxMnZbpPE%3D&reserved=0>) adapted to just use markdown files, and then patched into the SWC git lesson. Getting introduced to the vocabulary first within a gui and then seeing how the command line actions related to actions on the website and the GUI seemed to really help reinforce the concepts. Once I clean up all the materials for that class I'll be posting things up on github. I haven't seen the built in tutorial, but will check that out! Elizabeth On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 3:33 AM Leinweber, Katrin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi! > I find that the Git and Github sections of a workshop generate a lot of > technical questions and errors, notably more than the other sections. So true! > […] If git and github could be taught in 5 minutes, I'm guessing it would be > included in DC material... https://desktop.github.com/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fdesktop.github.com%2F__%3B!5Xm4_O-4tfk!nK2a3ykh4nDLX44d8lw1uhw9hYkeUQs61TqpFd-96RFxi5wQa-7lfZMdnQG6PA%24&data=02%7C01%7Cjamenebk%40ku.edu%7Cdb2429d0b0674754cb7c08d7532ee623%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637069333211359846&sdata=JH58RK%2BqZAuBUU9tKgO%2BB8BqnAsAcSaA03MViX1ARmM%3D&reserved=0> added a built-in tutorial recently. Has anyone used this in a workshop? I'd be happy to receive some comments on that, because I'm planning to use it in a few weeks. Thanks and greetings! 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