Dear David, thanks for sharing your views. I was not aware of this issue (github and ICE) and would love to support you in any way possible - even though I am based in old Europe. I'd personally vote for gitlab.com for now - that said being a temporary solution perhaps.
Best, Peter On 12/13/19 3:01 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi all, > > Thank you Serah and the rest of the Carpentries team for having this > discussion. > > I want to provide some context--I'm not sure what else might have given rise > to this, but I know that it stems in part from an > open letter to GitHub put together by open-source maintainers. The letter > asks the company to drop their contract with > Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in the United States: > https://github.com/drop-ice/dear-github-2.0 > > I'm well aware (and glad) that the Carpentries is an international > organization, and some might ask why we should be concerned > with what looks like, on the face of it, just US politics. > > But I also know that many of us are scientists, immigrants, refugees; > sometimes all three of those things at once. And ICE has > become a key instrument of oppression of immigrants and refugees in the > United States. > > So I think it's worth discussing whether the Carpentries should promote a > company that supports an agency like ICE. Right now, > we basically provide free advertising for GitHub at version control workshops. > > I would not presume to tell anyone what to think, and I'm not sure I would > have chosen the same articles linked to in the open > letter to illustrate the issues with ICE. But personally I am having a hard > time actively promoting GitHub because of its > actions. Here is one article on why one employee choose to leave GitHub in > the wake of the controversy: > https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7x5an4/why-i-quit-github > > Another question we might ask is, "if not GitHub, then what?" > I don't know that there's a good answer right now. > GitLab has updated their policies in response to public criticism: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/17/gitlab_reverse_ferret/ > > I wonder if, long-term, it would be possible to provide researchers with a > non-profit alternative to GitHub for sharing > code. Maybe this NPO could even boldly assert things like "we will not help > state agencies punish refugees for fleeing > repressive conditions in other countries that the same state helped create". > I know, I'm a crazy dreamer. > > Anyway, I hope this helps frame the discussion. > > --David > *The Carpentries <https://carpentries.topicbox.com/latest>* / discuss / see > discussions > <https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss> + participants > <https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/members> + > delivery options > <https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/subscription> Permalink > <https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/T0d0e93b3a52c01f4-Ma49c6e992af186ba68a29ae7>
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