NCP is dead.
iCore (to be renamed as you guess because of trademark issues) represents the
community platform we want to sponsor, and will also be the base platform for
future NexentaStor products.
The goal is for iCore to deliver the same bits as OI, using dpkg/apt. We will
share a common upstream with OI, and will have tools to generate .deb packages
from the sources we use for OpenIndiana, including parsing of the manifest
files from IPS.
Nexenta is doing the initial work here, but we hope to hand this over to the
community and then allow the community to own it. We will continue to work to
enhance it. This is not going to be a Nexenta-owned project -- we'd like to
see it live underneath the illumos umbrella.
We will also collaborate with OpenIndiana on the common upstream (to be named)
of package sources, including contributing updates, new packages, and so forth.
We hope to have a beta available in the coming week. Stay tuned.
- Garrett
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Mathieu Simon wrote:
> G'day
>
> I've kept following what is today known as Nexenta Core Platform (and
> I'm using the commercial variant as well).
> As being someon rather young with a more linux-ish background I am
> more familiar with Debian's dpkg packaging
> system than IPS and that's what brought me initially to illumos.
>
> Now that Nexenta is targetting the switch of their commercial offering
> to illumos they try re-rewrapping and -thinking
> what they want to do with their community editions and offerings.*
> Nexenta Core 3 seems to be rather a dead end - at least
> I don't expect Nexenta to allow a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' of their commercial
> OS:
> - Tons of backports
> - many hand-patched packages lagging behind the Ubuntu upstream which
> already is a lagging downstream of Debian
> - It's not based on illumos but on OpenSolaris (+ much backports from illumos)
>
> I don't think that the current NCP3 is making happy aspired
> contributor (the repos are tied to Nexenta)
> nor Nexenta (can't fullfill expectations since they have to focus on
> their commrecial distro).
>
> Some efforts in and outside of the company behind that distribution
> exist or have started (iCore). Maybe 'we' - those who
> are either makeing it, packaging additional stuff or wanna-bee
> contributors (myself...) - have now the opportunity to take
> new directions and think about what we expect it to be? He are some
> questions I'm throwing at you as input :-)
>
> - What are people involved in iCore planning yet with their baby?
> - What do 'we' expect from a illumos distro using dpkg/apt?
> - Who is using the dpkg packaging with OSol / illumos yet - get people
> on board you know!**
> - Do we want to use 'just' dpkg: Be closer to illumos or to be more GNU-ish?
> - How near / close do we want to be tied with Nexenta? vs.
> How much does Nexenta as company want to be involved / do their own?
>
> Personally I belive using a name containing "iFoo" anyway could create
> trademark issues with a certain company -
> I'd recommend reconsidering that choice. I'm tossing that now out of
> my mailbox - looking whether someone will respond reading on that list
> ;-)
>
> Regards
> Mathieu
>
> * I'm following ths process from the 'outside', Linda Kateley has
> asked for feedback on both Forums on nexenta(stor).org
> ** I was thinking about StormOS or maybe the guy operating
> apt.zpool.org and napp-it.org that can use NCP3
>
>
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