On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 08:33:43 +0000 (UTC)
"Apostolos Syropoulos via illumos-discuss" <discuss@lists.illumos.org>
wrote:

> I am not really sure if these are limitations and issues of X11,but the 
> problem is: who is going to lift them. We can talk forhours but the problem 
> is whether someone will step in and implement the ideas. On the other hand, 
> Wayland, which is supposed to be the future has tons of problems, issues, 
> andlimitations. So what are you proposing?
> Regards,A.S.----------------------Apostolos Syropoulos
> Xanthi, Greece

I'm not proposing anything. I was asked about the limitations of X11
and provided my opinions. I'm not involved in Xserver or Wayland
development and don't really have a preference for either of those.

I still run a lot of legacy hardware and use a multitude of operating
systems: Solaris, Illumos, BSDs, Linux, Windows, etc. The open source
community seems to be splitting into two camps: Linux camp advocating
Wayland and everybody else still using Xserver and X11.

The problem is, the likes of GTK and Gnome are deprecating X11 and will
not support it in the near future. Others may follow as well. You can
fork X11 as much as you like, but you still won't be able to use GTK
applications in years to come.

My personal preference would be for a group of people to start a
commercial project to create a portable windowing system with modern
features like HDR support, etc. Design something new and efficient with
direct access to the graphics hardware. Reasonable licensing fees and a
loyal user base can enable the project to thrive and have a viable
business continuity. Then you don't need to look for anyone to step in
and do some part time coding on the weekends. People can be paid to be
full time developers, which in turn avoids stagnation and apathy that
is common with many open source projects.

I've been thinking of doing this myself, but I'm currently involved
with various other projects and will be quite busy for the next few
years.

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