On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 5:22 PM Eric J Bowman <mellowm...@zoho.com> wrote:
> But the mouse and keyboard already don't work on new hardware, > particularly keyboard on AMD cpu's, login as root you see "R^O^O^T^" 95% of > the time. So maybe it's time to move on from HAL and fix what's broken with > illumos on UEFI-only boxes (w/o CSM, unless there's a PS/2 port for > kbd/mouse). > You have Xorg running on such a system? As far as I know, it doesn't work at all. If you're on the console, HAL doesn't come into play. > We have a different mindset on this, but I got mine from Rear Admiral > Grace Hopper. Continuing to do things the way they've always been done for > the sake of not changing, is not a good attitude in Computer Science and I > think it's rendering illumos to obsolescence. > If we had something to move on to, then that would be fair enough. As we don't (until someone comes up with a replacement), then removing it and breaking every existing system we do run on is an even faster wayto ensure obsolescence. > -Eric > > ---- On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:12:37 -0700 *Peter Tribble > <peter.trib...@gmail.com <peter.trib...@gmail.com>>* wrote --- > > I can't speak for current Solaris, but Xorg on illumos definitely needs > hal. > > (Otherwise the mouse and keyboard don't work.) > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 4:37 PM Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult < > i...@metux.net> wrote: > > -- > -Peter Tribble > http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ > *illumos <https://illumos.topicbox.com/latest>* / illumos-discuss / see > discussions <https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss> + participants > <https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/members> + delivery options > <https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/subscription> Permalink > <https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/T3110f63636a43522-Mf0771449760ee60c1cb7d98e> > > Hi folks, > > we're currently discussing dropping HAL support from the Xserver, > since we didn't find any active user of it anymore. But somebody > pointed out it might still be used in Solaris world: > > https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/issues/162#issuecomment-2983371353 > > Is that correct ? Shall we keep it ? > > Note: I'm talking about the HAL that's once been invented at Gnome 2. > (maybe there're other things by the same name). > > thx > --mtx > > -- > --- > Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult > Free software and Linux embedded engineering > i...@metux.net -- +49-151-27565287 > -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------------ illumos: illumos-discuss Permalink: https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/T3110f63636a43522-Me8562a2b697a1013c3d78fc9 Delivery options: https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/subscription
