Let me rephrase what you are describing, Meredith: in the workflow diagram
for this wizard, you have two "if" statements in the row: "Was the path B
completed before?", "Does user want to make another round of the path B?".

The provisional completion check marks along the path B answer "yes" to the
first question and can be cleared or made permanent in the answer to the
second question. I would recommend to make the provisional check slightly
desaturated to indicate that they are conditional, only suggest one of the
two possible paths.

Oleh
On Nov 30, 2007 12:25 PM, Oleh Kovalchuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  The check marks for the B path ar provisional, they serve as a reminder
> that the work has been done already. If user choses to proceed with another
> round along path B, the check marks for that path are cleared, and the user
> proceeds on her merry way along the path B one more time).
>
> Oleh
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2007 11:55 AM, Meredith Noble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >  Thanks for this, Oleh.
> >
> > This would work well if Task B was a complete once and only once sort of
> > thing. What I don't think I managed to get across was that it's fully up to
> > the user each time whether they want to go through Task B again or not.
> >
> > If they've never done Task B before, they are *forced* into Task B to
> > create a widget to work with.
> >
> > However, even if they *have* done Task B before, and have widgets to
> > work with, they may still choose to define a new widget to work with – one
> > that's not already in their list.
> >
> > Unfortunately (I think) your great design only allows for completing
> > Task B once and only once. Am I right?
> >
> > Sorry for leaving that important detail out!
> >
> > Meredith
> >
> >   ------------------------------
> >  *From:* Oleh Kovalchuke [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2007 1:15 PM
> > *To:* Meredith Noble
> > *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Subject:* Re: [IxDA Discuss] nested, multi-step progress bars
> >
> >  Here is one possible solution for the progress bar.
> >
> >  Progress bar in the beginning of the wizard:
> >
> >  * A step1*
> >   A step2
> >      B step1
> >      B step2
> >      B step3
> >      B step4
> >  A step3
> >
> >  Progress bar at the branching point (B path has been completed):
> > Replace star (*) with "done" check mark.
> >
> >  *A step1
> >  * A step2*
> >     *B step1
> >     *B step2
> >     *B step3
> >     *B step4
> > A step3
> >
> >  Progress bar at the branching point (B path has not been completed):
> >
> >  *A step1
> >  * A step2*
> >      B step1
> >      B step2
> >      B step3
> >      B step4
> >  A step3
> >
> >   Progress bar past the branching point (working on B path):
> >
> >  *A step1
> >  *** A step2
> >     *B step1
> >      *B step2*
> >      B step3
> >      B step4
> >  A step3
> >
>
>  This progress bar keeps users informed about future steps at all times as
> well as educates them about the connection between pathways A and B (builds
> the conceptual model of the workflow) for the future similar tasks.
>
>  Oleh
>   On Nov 30, 2007 9:02 AM, Meredith Noble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>   Hi all,
>  I'm looking for some ideas on how to design progress bars for some
> nested flows.
>   In the application I'm designing right now, we have two flows for two
> related tasks, task A and task B. Task A has 3 steps, and Task B has 4
> steps. Task B can be done independently, without task A, but MUST be
> completed before Task A can be completed.
>   The trick is that we allow people to enter the flow for Task A, and then
> jump out to Task B if they need/wish to.
>   In other words, instead of just doing A1 -> A2 -> A3, some users instead
>
> go through the steps: A1 -> B1 -> B2 -> B3 -> B4 -> A2 -> A3.
>   Has anyone ever designed progress bars for something like this before?
> We can't predict in advance whether or not a user will want to jump out
> to Task B from Task A, so we can't simply include those steps in our
> progress bar off the bat. The other solutions I can envision are:
>   a)       Dynamically updating the progress bar to include 7 steps after
> the user can indicated a desire to go to Task B (maybe visually
> indicating that some are substeps, so as not to overwhelm the user)
>   b)       Simply replacing the Task A progress bar with the Task B
> progress bar until Task B is finished, then going back to the Task A
> progress bar afterward
>   Phew, I hope I've been clear here. It's hard to explain without a
> concrete example!
>   I can see shortcomings in both of these solutions so I'm hoping someone
> might have a suggestion for something else elegant that I've missed...
>   Thanks all,
>  Meredith
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> Meredith Noble
> Information Architect, Usability Matters Inc.
> 416-598-7770, ext. 6
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