I hear you Dave -- A while back we talked a bit about this - and I was using Expression for some design/interaction prototyping - but you you are right - from a designer's perspective it was still very very painful (caveat - I haven't used it since September). The usability and flow was just not there for a true interface/interaction designer to feel comfortable enough giving up the old tools - even if the new tool would eventually hold the promise of making a much better integration between designer and developer. And -- on the other front - as good as Nathan's WPF Unleashed book was - it was not enough for an IxD to be able to do simple data-binding without much gnashing of teeth and breaking of bones.
That said - in a year or two it will be a formidable tool/ On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:12:15, dave malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a current user of Expression Blend and I think it is REALLY close > ... about 60% of the way there. that missing 40% is painful. I have > had good contacts with that team and I think that if we give them to > 3.5 or 4.0 they might get it right. > > What I see wrong with their current direction is that they are trying > to solve the Designer > Developer workflow problem instead of trying > to solve the designer problem and THEN the designer > developer > workflow problem. Which in my mind, if you solve the designer > problem, there will be less issues between the two. > > If Blend is not a good designer tool, then you haven't solved the > workflow issue b/c designers won't use it. > > I think adding the additional role of "integrator" as I think they > are now calling it, is a HUGE mistake. > > >From an MS perspective though, there are 20million MS developers, and > MAYBE 100,000 interactive Designers (not developers). You do the math. > ;) > > And how many of those designers are going to choose MS over Adobe? > > -- dave > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Posted from the new ixda.org > http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=25002 > > > ________________________________________________________________ > *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* > February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA > Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ > > ________________________________________________________________ > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help > -- ~ will "Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems" ------------------------------------------------------- will evans user experience architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
