Hi Grady,
That's actually the point of Thermo J Currently, you have to drop to code to build behavior in Flex. The idea of Thermo is to make it so you can prototype and build interactions without having to write code (but the code is there behind it, so a developer can take it and turn it into a real app). Glad to hear you like Fireworks! I'm curious what aspects of it you use most when designing UI. Thanks, nj Adobe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grady Kelly Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:47 AM To: Narciso Jaramillo Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Good Rant on lack of Good GUI Design Software But doesn't Thermo limit you to just Flex? I think that is a bad thing. I have had horrible experiences with Flex development. I would consider myself a fairly savvy at what I do. Like some, I can design a composite in Fireworks and then build the xhtml/css/javascript prototype. Thermo outputs mxml for flex. If I want to make an element do something I am at a loss as I do not know Flex or ActionScript well enough to do anything. I can find numerous amounts of ajax/js/css resources to build the interactions that I know are possible. 99% of the time I can create a UI composite in Fireworks and build the High Fidelity Prototype in no time. To follow the article form the first post, Fireworks is an awesome tool for creating UI. I have used it for the last 8 years and have never been able to not do something that I needed. Grady On Jan 30, 2008 10:00 AM, Narciso Jaramillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Coming in on this thread a bit late...lots of good stuff here! David Malouf wrote: > The Thermo stuff is definitely interesting, but thinks like a graphic > designer, not like an interactive designer. Expression in their > tutorials anyway is thinking similarly. > Basic assumption that is false that both are making is that I'm going > to make a finalized high fidelity graphic UI as a flat screen to start and > THEN add interactive elements. This goes against the very way IxD's have > been working. Just a quick note on this... Our current public Thermo demo does emphasize the graphic-design-to-production workflow, but we're also interested in the early-stage interaction design workflow. We do plan to have basic drawing tools and built-in components to let you do wireframing, and you can build custom components and try out interactions and transitions in wireframe as well. It sounds like the overall message of this thread is that the interaction design workflow is much more about early-stage experimentation, screen architecture, and prototyping, and that while visuals are somewhat important (for sketching and presentation purposes), exact visual bits aren't. Is that a fair characterization? I'd definitely be curious to hear what other kinds of interaction design needs aren't being addressed by visual-production-oriented design tools today. By the way, I'm going to be at Interaction '08 along with other Thermo folks from Adobe--if you see one of us, please stop us and have a chat! Thanks, Narciso (nj) Jaramillo Adobe Thermo team ________________________________________________________________ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help ________________________________________________________________ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
