Hey, I acctually think so to, if you visit his website you can see that back in 1987 he started using this in his interfaces ( http://static.userland.com/misc/outliners/images/tank241pc/outliner1.gif ) and http://static.userland.com/misc/outliners/images/more11c/outline1.gif . His website beign http://www.outliners.com/ .
Best Regards, Bojhan Somers Murli Nagasundaram schreef: > I recall outliner programs such as ThinkTank (by Dave Winer?) as being among > the first to use the +/- notation for expand and collapse. This was in the > mid to late 1980's. > > - murli > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Chauncey Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> There are several pictorial histories of GUIs that have examples of >> interface objects that go back as far as the Xerox Alto >> >> http://toastytech.com/guis/ >> http://www.guidebookgallery.org/icons >> >> The object with the + sign is often associated with a treeview object >> so you might try searching on that. I looked in my Windows 3.1 guide >> and in that book, there is no treeview, but hierarchical folders for >> file operations (no +). One trick that many people, even after many >> years don't know (or aren't aware of) is that the plus sign in Windows >> often allows you to open things up without changing the selection >> focus (different tree view widget may allow different types of >> interactions). >> >> Since the plus is possible in character cell applications, you might >> want to look at some of the early office products. >> >> You might also want to search for examples of "file managers". >> Wikipedia has a good list of file managers that might use the plus >> sign. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_manager >> >> Chauncey >> >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Charles Hannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> I am interested in the history of (+). I am tracking the "evolution" of >>> >> this >> >>> interaction idiom (and others) and the ways in which user mental models >>> >> have >> >>> to adapt to such changes. >>> je >>> >> > I think (+) first meant "expand" as opposed to (-) which meant >> "collapse." >> >>> In iTunes it means "Add Playlist" and this has been copied (very >>> >> crudely) in >> >>> the Sony Reader eBook Library application. In the original iPhone/iPod >>> >> Touch >> >>> Safari interface it meant "Add Bookmark" but after the January 2008 >>> >> upgrade >> >>> it has been generalized to mean "Add Something." >>> >>> I am not a long-time Mac user so I wonder if (+) has always been part of >>> >> the >> >>> Apple lexicon, or if it is new. Also, has anyone on this list seen (or >>> created) different implementations/meanings of (+) in other products? >>> >>> Charlie >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! >>> To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe >>> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines >>> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help >>> >>> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! >> To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe >> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines >> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help >> >> > ________________________________________________________________ > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
