Andrei is perfectly correct here and the discussion of patents the
links to patents should not be discussed on IxDA. That should be a
strict policy.  Discussion of a particular patent like this could open
members and companies on this discussion group open to treble damages
for willful infringement.  Many companies have gotten in trouble for
discussing patents and prior through internal emails.  My wife is a
patent attorney and I remember how I was stunned when she described
this practice to me when I was involved in a patent and the corporate
lawyer asked me not do any research. The instruction for designers not
to look at patents is standard practice.  If you are an inventor, your
lawyer will ask you what prior art you are aware of and will then
research for additional prior art, but will ask you not to do any
further research.  If you do come on something, even inadvertently,
you will be asked to discuss that in person with the lawyer.

So, to protect all of us, please do as Andrei requested and not
discuss patents on this discussion group.

Chauncey

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Alexander Baxevanis wrote:
>
>> Here is the patent in question: [removed]
>>
>> and an earlier patent that they also own: [removed]
>
>
> This has been discussed in the past before...
>
> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take patent discussions to a sequestered list or blog
> posting or something other than being inline on the email list or digest.
> And please do not link patents in messages. Some of us have to avoid patents
> like the plague due to clients or corporate rules and cannot have them in
> email, caches, etc. Cannot read patent sites, cannot discuss patent concepts
> so as to not be used against us if legal action is taken, etc.
>
> I'm entirely sympathetic to the anger over these issues, but please be aware
> that discussing them openly and including snippets, transcripts and links
> about patents subjects some on the list to things we'd rather not have to
> endure.
>
> --
> Andrei Herasimchuk
>
> Principal, Involution Studios
> innovating the digital world
>
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