[Thanx Dan for that good analysis. I just can't resist to adding what
I wrote before I read it.]

IAI focus is information  and on the web
IxDA focus is behavior and across all mediums

IAI is a closed memberbased organization
IxDA is an open organization
(I think there are more issues to this than just the ones you
mentioned) AND there is nothing stopping "scholarships" within an
open organization. Hell! we've done it already in IxDA with
volunteers getting free passes and sometimes even travel expenses to
the conference.

IAI is NOT. And I repeat this NOT rooted in design.
IxDA is very squarely rooted as a design discipline.

Here's a nice ironic thing ...
IAI has not committed to participating in UXNet
IxDA has from its very 1st day.

So in my mind it is a painter vs. a sculptor thing. For some they
will move fluidly between the 2, but for others they will focus on
single mastery. There will always be a place for it.

If the IxDA is not working for you, I suggest you build something
that make sense for you. Seriously, that's not a bad thing. Maybe
the leadership of the IxDA will see that as a model that THEY can
follow. "Build it and they will come".

1) Stop asking permission
2) Start doing
3) Respect differences instead of trying to minimize them
4) Look for avenues of cooperation that do not mean unification
5) Overlap is not the same thing as redundancy
6) I think people seeing an overlap in membership is actually not
accurrate. Looking at the a few stats:
a) Overlapping memberships show that IAI is not even more than 50% of
IxDA membership
b) Conference attendance at IxDA was NOT more than 50% of IAI
membership. Many could care less about IA.  Many could care less
about the web.
7) acknowledge that a lot of this is centered in practice and BOTH
organizations are supposedly about the disciplines and NOT practice.
8) If you feel torn, don't presume others do. I have spoken to many
IxDA members who feel that IAI just doesn't fit them. I have spoken
to fewer IAI. But I have heard some say that IxDA doesn't fit them
either. (less so admitedly).

I've been here since the beginning I would say (of IAI and IxDA).
I've been at the center of dialogs with ALL the big UX Orgs (which
brings up the thought why is this about IAI and IxDA; where's CHI
and UPA?). UPA is especially relevant as they already think of
themselves in their mission and leadership as a UX organization.
Maybe there's your answer!

Conjecture re IAI (that will get me in trouble):
I see that IAI has a problem. NOT IxDA or that UX is some sort of
solution. IAI has not created a vibrant home for all its members and
its membership model increases the tension. Maybe this isn't about
IxDA and unification, but more about the growing irrelevance of IA to
the real practice of web design/architecture professionals. That
isn't to say that IA is not a piece, but it is growingly a smaller
part of the focus of most solutions people are working on today.
Lastly, You did it! IA is now so well understood and its patterns so
well defined that doing that aspect of the work is just not as
difficult as other aspects. THAT's a success metrics if you ask me
not a bad thing. Last negative thing on IA. Maybe IAs grounding as a
discipline focused on deliverables has caught up to itself, and like
UPAs goal of moving beyond utility and efficiency hasn't worked, IAI
has not been able to move beyond deliverables and categorization. So
folks who spilled blood and sweat building IAI (admirable and
important) have a vibrant community set up around something that
doesn't require it. That doesn't mean that it requires a merger, or
even a merger is in someone else's best interest.

-- dave

ps. to @richard of course there is common ground and I think those
are easy to articulate mostly around user/human/people-centeredness.
What more do you need?


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