Apurv, Please don't listen to this recording.
It was made a long time ago and it is NOT representative of anybody's current thinking. At the time, Kent Beck was pushing pure XP, which is decidedly NOT the same thing as what is currently known as "agile". My opinions about XP are NOT the same as my opinions about agile. In the years since that recording was made, much has been learned by both the interaction design community AND by the agile community about what the world of software needs and how our two practitioner communities can provide it. Kent's innovations such as pair programming and test driven development are powerful and effective tools. When they are paired with the agile concept that I call "responsible craftsmanship", the synergy is fantastic. While Kent and I still have significant points of departure in our thinking, I'd wager that he would not take the same stance today that he did in 2004, and I know that I don't (would you?). Over a year ago I asked Kent to record our "debate" anew, and while he was game for doing it, the logistics never came together. Agile is a significant and positive movement in the world of technology, just as the movement for design has been. They are NOT AT ALL MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE and I'm actively working with a broad range of agilistas to find effective common ground. Please don't dredge up old arguments and mis-apply them to new ideas. Thanx, Alan __________ cooper | Product Design for a Digital World Alan Cooper [email protected] | www.cooper.com All information in this message is proprietary & confidential. "Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly, I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it." - Theodore Roosevelt -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Apurv Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Content of Cooper vs Beck Hi all, While looking interaction design in an agile context, I'm constantly coming across a certain very landmark public discussion from 2004 between Alan Cooper and Kent Beck (of Extreme Programming) mentioned across the web. It seems this was a very insightful discussion and I am very curious to read it. The original link to the content however is dead - http://www.fawcette.com/interviews/beck_cooper/default.asp Would anybody have a copy of it stored with them and be able to share it with me? I'd be humongously grateful! Here's the link to the Cooper vs Bech discussion on IXCD years ago - http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=1079 Cheers, Apurv ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [email protected] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [email protected] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
