On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:13 AM, j. eric townsend wrote:

> Yet amazingly enough, we ignorant developers managed to create all sorts of 
> amazing products in the 80s and 90s without designers holding our hands or 
> telling us where to put the pixels or what color they should be.
> 
> If your (collective, not just Dave) general attitude towards developers is 
> that they are robots ignorant of design or aesthetics who exist only to do 
> your bidding, I think you have bigger problems than how to implement agile or 
> whatever.

I wouldn't take Alan's attitude toward developers to be the norm. In fact, I 
find it a little dated. It might have been true or warranted in the 80s or 90s 
that there was a strong line and animosity between designers and developers, 
but I haven't found that to be the case on any project I've worked on, at least 
in the '00s and I hope going forward. 

Most of the developers I've worked with have been valuable collaborators, and 
the line between design and development gets blurrier every day. Especially 
with web work, designers and developers are often the same person. I've stolen 
some great design ideas from developers that have definitely improved the end 
product.

We shouldn't forget that we're not the ones who create the product: developers, 
engineers, and manufacturers are. We're just making the plans. We rely on their 
skills to execute and hopefully improve upon our ideas.


Dan

Dan Saffer
Principal, Kicker Studio
http://www.kickerstudio.com
@odannyboy on Twitter


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