Yeah, I still hate google. I say this event though I'm about to get an android phone, and am finally moving away from the blackberry.

I manage a mailing list that's actually provided by the hosting people I use, and it's been almost effortless, no heavy lifting for me at all. Oh, that all ended a couple of days ago. Google/Gmail is now reporting warnings, for every single post, every single time, because there's no SPF record, *and* because the email is not coming from who appears to be the sender.

Normally, on any other list, I'd just tell the people using gmail to use something else, or get used to the error message. Unfortunately, even though it's a Linux user group mailing list, many of the people are not all that technical, and what's worse, 47 of the 100 users have gmail accounts, and many of them are the most active members.

The warning reads:

"This message may not have been sent by: [email protected]
  Learn more  Report phishing"

I've been trying to work through this with the provider (and really surprised that I seem to be the only one with this problem, since I know they manage multiple lists), and I think that although we've created an spf record, that it's wrong. It certainly isn't making gmail happy, and I'd really like to do that.

Here's Gmail complaining:

1 Received: from eight.pairlist.net (eight.pairlist.net [209.68.2.227])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTP id
 dm1si1817465qab.15.2011.06.30.10.27.57;
 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
2 Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.2.227 is neither permitted
 nor denied by best guess record for domain of [email protected])
 client-ip=209.68.2.227;
3 Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral
 (google.com: 209.68.2.227 is neither permitted nor denied by
 best guess record for domain of [email protected])
 [email protected]

Line 1 shows the actual host that has the mailman software, and is sending out the mail. Line 2 is Google tsk, tsking at me, and line 3 basically says I'm screwed.

The current SPF record for 3clug.org is wrong (which you can see from dig), in ways that are too subtle for someone who hasn't done anything new in DNS for more years than I like to think of. Even worse, the only example of an SPF record that I could find, that worked, bears not the slightest resemblance to the one that the folks at Pair have suggested.

I could stumble around, or spend some time reading, but really, I'm hoping to just get it fixed so that the message goes away. I might add that, although I've said sincerely that I hate google, in this case, I don't really disagree with them. Just because I have an edge case where I know that the mail is all legitimate, for this particular instance, I'd be just as happy to put in the right SPF, and be done with it.

Thanks in advance, as usual.

--
"The time will come when winter will ask you what you were doing all summer."

        Henry Clay
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