Hi Lynda,

I see your record is published as the "SPF" DNS type, but not as "TXT"

$ dig 3clug.org SPF +short
"v=spf1 a mx a:vuae.pair.com a:eight.pairlist.net include:relay.pair.com -all"
$ dig 3clug.org TXT +short
$ 

I think this is uncommonly used, I'd try duplicating the record as the TXT type 
and see if Google accepts it.


HTH,

Jonathan


On Jul 1, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Lynda wrote:

> Yeah, I still hate google. I say this event though I'm about to get an 
> android phone, and am finally moving away from the blackberry.
> 
> I manage a mailing list that's actually provided by the hosting people I use, 
> and it's been almost effortless, no heavy lifting for me at all. Oh, that all 
> ended a couple of days ago. Google/Gmail is now reporting warnings, for every 
> single post, every single time, because there's no SPF record, *and* because 
> the email is not coming from who appears to be the sender.
> 
> Normally, on any other list, I'd just tell the people using gmail to use 
> something else, or get used to the error message. Unfortunately, even though 
> it's a Linux user group mailing list, many of the people are not all that 
> technical, and what's worse, 47 of the 100 users have gmail accounts, and 
> many of them are the most active members.
> 
> The warning reads:
> 
> "This message may not have been sent by: [email protected]
>  Learn more  Report phishing"
> 
> I've been trying to work through this with the provider (and really surprised 
> that I seem to be the only one with this problem, since I know they manage 
> multiple lists), and I think that although we've created an spf record, that 
> it's wrong. It certainly isn't making gmail happy, and I'd really like to do 
> that.
> 
> Here's Gmail complaining:
> 
> 1 Received: from eight.pairlist.net (eight.pairlist.net [209.68.2.227])
>        by mx.google.com with ESMTP id
> dm1si1817465qab.15.2011.06.30.10.27.57;
> Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
> 2 Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.2.227 is neither permitted
> nor denied by best guess record for domain of [email protected])
> client-ip=209.68.2.227;
> 3 Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral
> (google.com: 209.68.2.227 is neither permitted nor denied by
> best guess record for domain of [email protected])
> [email protected]
> 
> Line 1 shows the actual host that has the mailman software, and is sending 
> out the mail. Line 2 is Google tsk, tsking at me, and line 3 basically says 
> I'm screwed.
> 
> The current SPF record for 3clug.org is wrong (which you can see from dig), 
> in ways that are too subtle for someone who hasn't done anything new in DNS 
> for more years than I like to think of. Even worse, the only example of an 
> SPF record that I could find, that worked, bears not the slightest 
> resemblance to the one that the folks at Pair have suggested.
> 
> I could stumble around, or spend some time reading, but really, I'm hoping to 
> just get it fixed so that the message goes away. I might add that, although 
> I've said sincerely that I hate google, in this case, I don't really disagree 
> with them. Just because I have an edge case where I know that the mail is all 
> legitimate, for this particular instance, I'd be just as happy to put in the 
> right SPF, and be done with it.
> 
> Thanks in advance, as usual.
> 
> -- 
> "The time will come when winter will ask you what you were doing all summer."
> 
>        Henry Clay
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