To paraphrase Paul Krugman on This Week Sunday: The only people who'd be 
surprised this is possible haven't watched a single thriller movie in the past 
20 years.

On the other hand, the American voters may still be surprised at how much the 
Fourth Amendment has been folded, spindled and mutilated in the name of 
"Protecting Our Freedom".  And we all know how easily such data, once 
collected, can be mined for purposes other than the original intent once it's 
just sitting there waiting to be explored.


On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Alan Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:

> re: voting public.  Good point. Our enemies doubtless already knew... So, 
> that's the only thing that was added.
> 
> On 06/11/2013 10:11 AM, Derek Balling wrote:
>> But making that information public to the voting public at large is HUGE.
>> 
>> Whether you agree with him or not, he is showing the public at large what a 
>> idealistically motivated system administrator can do.
>> 
>> D
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Mark Honomichl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hard to see this as one of the biggest intelligence coups in American 
>>> history.  He leaked the existence of a program that I would assume most (if 
>>> not all) of the people on this list knew was possible (if not probable) for 
>>> years.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> A system administrator goes off the reservation for one of the biggest 
>>> intelligence coups in American history, and there's no mention of it here?
>>> 
>>> D
>>> 
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