> From: [email protected] [mailto:discuss-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Luke S. Crawford
> 
> I think that the primary thing that Snowden showed was not that we were
> being watched;  we knew that.
> 
> Snowden showed us that the data they were keeping on us was ridiculously
> insecure.   Not only can the government access your data (which we all
> knew, or suspected)  but any random contract sysadmin can also see your
> data.

Actually - I agree.  I was mostly shocked to think, "How the hell did he get so 
much information, and why is it written in such obviously incriminating 
language?"

I thought secret spy organizations had policies of need-to-know, and least 
rights, and other barriers so if one of them were to defect or be compromised, 
very little would be compromised along with them.  They certainly keep record 
of which documents each employee downloads.  It seems hard to believe they 
don't have alerts and triggers to recognize somebody downloading an unusually 
high volume of secret documents.

I keep suspecting there is an actual conspiracy here - either Snowden's aware 
or being used as a pawn - I keep thinking that the information leaks were 
intentional and orchestrated.  Because either the government is *that* stupid, 
or it's a manipulation tactic.   This is the NSA we're talking about.  They 
can't be *that* stupid, can they?

They can't get China or Russia to capture the guy?  Because they couldn't file 
the paperwork properly?  They can't secretly go to China or Russia and kidnap 
him?  What kind of a spy organization is this?  The Mafia could get it done.

Maybe there are two conflicting political parties at play inside the NSA.  One 
gains power to overreach and spy on Americans, a la Patriot Act, and the other 
thinks it's wrong to do so, so they place a huge pile of highly incriminating 
documents in front of the eyes of contractors waiting for one of them to leak 
it...

Maybe they're intentionally bumbling and letting him constantly slip through 
their fingers, to demonstrate what would happen if they released prisoners from 
Gitmo.  To undermine the faith of the American citizens in their government's 
ability to track these people, and therefore keep Gitmo open.

I don't know.  But I do know there's an overwhelming demonstration of 
incompetence and stupidity going around, and I know I'm in favor of exposing 
the secret programs a la PRISM.
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