But the carrier does have a say whether that water came from a river, was
desalinated from the ocean, or elsewhere.
The difference here is that, as a consumer, you both receive IP traffic *and*
request where it comes from. You don't do that with your other utilities.
--
Brad Beyenhof . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://augmentedfourth.com
Without education, we are in a horrible and deadly danger of taking
educated people seriously.
~ G.K. Chesterton, author (1874-1936)
On Jul 22, 2014, at 08:40 AM, Matt Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:
I've never been convinced that, because you carry water in your pipes to my house, you get to have a say in whether it goes to my faucet or to my sprinkler.
--Matt
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:
Here's hoping they don't, to be honest.
No matter how many people "want" it otherwise, the ISPs built those
networks, invested billions of dollars in them, and nobody else other than their
shareholders should have a say how traffic is managed on them.
Now, the counterargument usually goes "but there's no competition", to which I say "WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?", and point squarely at the government who mandates monopoly behavior, and who thinks "4G wireless" or "satellite service" is a legitimate "competition" for TWC 50x5 or FIOS.
Break the monopolies, invest in getting some competition in there (to undo
the damage of govt-granted monopolies for decades) and then let's see where we
stand.
D
On Jul 22, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Will Dennis <[email protected]> wrote:
Related:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/07/21/332678802/one-million-net-neutrality-comments-filed-but-will-they-matter
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Beyenhof
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:05 AM
To: Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [lopsa-discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP
monopolies
On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:09 AM, "Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
If the content is distributed by a content distribution network, and LOTS of
services use those networks, then the SSL cert could be "*.akamai.com" (or
whatever) and if the ISP's want to throttle it, their only choice is to throttle *all* of
the content indiscriminantly.
But then the ISPs could differentiate between CDNs, couldn't they? What's to prevent the market from being manipulated so that a non-neutral Net can just discriminate against (or for) large swaths of content providers at once?
-Brad
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