You'll probably get as many answers to this as people responding, so that gives me liberty to go off into the deep end.

If there's an onprem cloud going forward, it's likely to be OpenStack. I think there's a big question of if there's going to be an onprem cloud long term. As for a larger public cloud ecosystem including hosted private cloud, I'm not sure if the right pressures are there to make OpenStack viable.

@swardley has got some good stuff saying that OpenStack had a chance once, but at this point, it's on a track to only really be niche solutions (people who don't trust public cloud - either real or for "compliance" reasons - people who just want to do it themselves, or people who can't run into mulch-jurisdictional issues). There's a lot going for this one along the lines of a.) can you do it better than the big providers - process, evolution, and purchasing power?, and b.) even some of the "that can't go there" stuff, like the CIA, has gone there (though, it's not the same as the rest of the AWS public cloud).

On the other hand, the big traditional IT providers are trying to work into OpenStack, and have doubled down in the last year (this on top of the existing providers like MetaCloud, Rackspace, Piston, etc). Dell, EMC, and HP are building/have "total offerings" to the point where they're saying "28 days from PO to running." I'm not sure this is a great sign as it could just be the natural result of "ok, I can just run my stuff in AWS and get rid of all onprem stuff" and needing to keep a need for their wares.

Definitely in the short term, there's going to be a definite need. People are going to use it as a bridge between now and what will be - connecting existing gear/setups with new. I'm just not sure how long that's going to be. One would think it'd turn over in 3 year depreciation cycle, but we don't all move as quickly as others.

Personally, I'm hoping that OpenStack gets adopted by several independent cloud providers for either public or hosted private solutions, and the OSF is making some attempts to standardize that, but I do wonder if there's not too much market pressure to keep them from being truly interchangeable yet still viable. Even HP, who has a public cloud along this model, has openly said that it's questionable as to whether someone can compete with AWS, GC, and Azure.

I'm starting to think of it like I currently think of servers. I want to be able to swap one out for the other. We're not there, but hopefully OpenStack will help it get that way.

--mac

On 5/17/15 7:26 AM, Matt Lawrence wrote:
I've heard from multiple people, who I respect greatly, that OpenStack
is going to die off, but I just don't see it.  The modern IT
infrastructure is heavily populated with products and technologies that
were a really bad idea in their original release. So, while I think
OpenStack has some serious problems, I think it is going to be around
for quite a while.

I would like to hear what a number of other folks who I respect think.

-- Matt
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