Thanks!

I'll try it.  I already have the libraries on the system so I will alter
the init script.

Is Monty still around?

We used to talk quite a bit but I don't see him much any more.



On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 08:10:25PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss wrote:
> I don't think you can controll it through my.cnf.
> You'll have to edit the init script to add the LD_PRELOAD environment
> variable when mysqld/mariadbd loads.
> 
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 20:06, Ruben Safir <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 07:47:20PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss wrote:
> > > yum install gperftools-libs
> > >
> > > ```
> > > systemctl edit mariadb
> > > ```
> > > and add this:
> > > ```
> > > [Service]
> > > Environment="LD_PRELOAD=libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4"
> > > ```
> > >
> > > Then:
> > > ```
> > > systemctl daemon-reload
> > > systemctl restart mariadb
> > > ```
> >
> >
> > This can not be controlled through my.conf
> > or is this kernel/system environment issue.
> >
> > I don't use systemd
> >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 19:38, Ruben Safir <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 02:42:48PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Assuming you don't have your memory for MariaDB set too high for your
> > > > > RAM size (check using one of the many online MariaDB/MySQL memory
> > > > > calculators), it could be glibc's malloc() that has less than stellare
> > > > > fragmentation/occupancy characteristics. You might want to LD_PRELOAD
> > > > > tcmalloc and see of the OOM problem goes away.
> > > >
> > > > Aside from altering header files and recompiling :)
> > > >
> > > > how would I go about and do that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have seen this
> > > > > problem manifest looking like a memory leak on several database
> > > > > estates I look after.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 14:28, Ruben Safir via discuss
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 08:53:49AM -0300, Arlindo Neto wrote:
> > > > > > > It looks like apache is also getting killed by OOM in your 4GB VM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where do you see apache getting killed?  Apache seems to always be
> > > > > > running and mariadbd is killed.  And it won't restart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I often pound the heck out of apache http://www.brookln-fishing.com
> > > > > > alone is my master peice of stupid web design with thousand of 
> > > > > > images on
> > > > > > it which swells apaches connecitons and cached memory in modperl.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is only maria which seems to be crashing.  It is used for a 
> > > > > > simple
> > > > > > text mailing list which stores emails in mariadb and serves them
> > > > > > read-only.  Mailing list entries are live stored on a back end 
> > > > > > database
> > > > > > on another machine where the mail is running and perdiodically I 
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > rsync the entire database from /usr/locl/var to the webserver.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The mailing list gets hammered by bots and that seems to be the 
> > > > > > source
> > > > > > of the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MariaDB could be the victim here. I believe your next move should 
> > > > > > > be tuning
> > > > > > > Apache so it uses less memory,
> > > > > > > or move your db server to a spare VPS, so you can better 
> > > > > > > troubleshoot who
> > > > > > > is eating up your RAM.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 8:28 AM Ruben Safir via discuss <
> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not sure if this is much help
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mar 17 21:03:13 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 14642
> > > > > > > > (mariadbd) total-vm:4142548kB, anon-rss:13008kB, file-rss:440kB,
> > > > > > > > shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1612kB oom_score_adj:0
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 05:41:20 www3 mariadb[25757]: start-stop-daemon: no 
> > > > > > > > matching
> > > > > > > > processes found
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 25788
> > > > > > > > (mariadbd) total-vm:3217532kB, anon-rss:9196kB, file-rss:328kB,
> > > > > > > > shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1080kB oom_score_adj:0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mar 17 21:03:13 www3 kernel:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=68,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=14642,uid=60
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 05:41:24 www3 mariadb[25767]: WARNING: mariadb is 
> > > > > > > > already stopped
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel: [  25788]    60 25788   804383     
> > > > > > > > 2381
> > > > > > > > 2299       82         0  1105920    91680             0 mariadbd
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=68,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=25788,uid=60
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: mariadbd invoked oom-killer:
> > > > > > > > gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), 
> > > > > > > > order=0,
> > > > > > > > oom_score_adj=0
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: CPU: 1 UID: 60 PID: 29866 Comm: 
> > > > > > > > mariadbd
> > > > > > > > Not tainted 6.12.71-1-lts #1 
> > > > > > > > 0c6f64fd677899b1f215535073935a6275af35f3
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: [  29866]    60 29866   441047    
> > > > > > > > 22216
> > > > > > > > 22186       30         0   303104        0             0 
> > > > > > > > mariadbd
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/68,task=/usr/local/apac,pid=14730,uid=2
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mar 18 21:46:30 www3 kernel:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=29990,uid=60
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 06:52:51AM -0400, Ruben Safir via 
> > > > > > > > discuss wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I'll see what I can do on the next crash, but I haven't been 
> > > > > > > > > able to
> > > > > > > > > get anything from the logs
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 05:57:31AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > mariadb, which I am running at Artix Linux, has been set up 
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > flawlessly running for decades with Perl DBI:DBD
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Of late, it has regularly been crashing and I can't find 
> > > > > > > > > > even log
> > > > > > > > > > entries as to the cause, but suspect that the server is 
> > > > > > > > > > getting
> > > > > > > > hammered
> > > > > > > > > > by AI robots stressing the system.  A LONG time ago I had a 
> > > > > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > > > problem with memory allcoation being excusted and Monty 
> > > > > > > > > > showed me how
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > increase the memory allocation.  I don't know if a similar 
> > > > > > > > > > thing will
> > > > > > > > > > help as I am sure that these f***king robots will steal as 
> > > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > resources as you will feed them.  Once it crashed, it will 
> > > > > > > > > > not restart.
> > > > > > > > > > Sometimes I need to kill apache as well to restart.  
> > > > > > > > > > Occasionally I've
> > > > > > > > > > had to do a complete system reboot.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Do I have a solution to this?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Reuvain
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > > > > > > > > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > > > > > > > > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free 
> > > > > > > > > > Software
> > > > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination 
> > > > > > > > > > camps,
> > > > > > > > > > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI 
> > > > > > > > > > Safir 2013
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > > > > > > > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > > > > > > > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > > > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > > > > > > > > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > > > > > > > > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> > > > > > > > > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 
> > > > > > > > > 2013
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > > > > > > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > > > > > > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > > > > > > > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > > > > > > > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> > > > > > > > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 
> > > > > > > > 2013
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > > > > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > > > > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > > > > > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > > > > > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> > > > > > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
> > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Gordan Bobic
> > > > > Database Specialist, Shattered Silicon Ltd.
> > > > > https://shatteredsilicon.net
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> > > >
> > > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > > > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > > > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> > > >
> > > > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> > > > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gordan Bobic
> > > Database Specialist, Shattered Silicon Ltd.
> > > https://shatteredsilicon.net
> > > Follow us:
> > > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shatteredsilicon
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> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> >
> > --
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >
> > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >
> > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >
> 
> 
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