On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 06:42:04AM +0200, Maria wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yea, figure out why you're running out of RAM ... your overall
> system is highly over-committed on RAM, resulting the the kernel
> having no choice but to kill some process or another, due to the way
> things work, this will typically be mariadb as it's the single
> process consuming the most RAM.
> 


FWIW - the system has been stable for well over a decade (or two) - 
this seems to be a new behavior.


I have no idea why the vram is starting out so fat.


> Kind regards,
> Jaco
> 
> On 2026/03/26 01:12, Ruben Safir via discuss wrote:
> 
> >Still crashing
> >[ruben@www3 ~]$ sudo grep maria /var/log/everything.log
> >[sudo] password for ruben:
> >Mar 22 21:25:23 www3 start-stop-daemon[19993]: Will stop
> >/usr/bin/mariadbd
> >Mar 23 15:51:04 www3 start-stop-daemon[25003]: Will stop
> >/usr/bin/mariadbd
> >Mar 23 15:51:04 www3 mariadb[25003]: start-stop-daemon: no matching
> >processes found
> >Mar 23 15:51:08 www3 mariadb[25012]: WARNING: mariadb is already stopped
> >Mar 24 19:30:13 www3 kernel: [  25033]    60 25033   553615     3971
> >3831      140         0  1204224    99374             0 mariadbd
> >Mar 24 19:30:13 www3 kernel:
> >oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.named,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=25033,uid=60
> >Mar 24 19:30:13 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 25033
> >(mariadbd) total-vm:2214460kB, anon-rss:15324kB, file-rss:560kB,
> >shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1176kB oom_score_adj:0
> >
> >There must be a fix for this, otherwise and website with a mariadb would
> >be useless
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 04:00:47PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>eh
> >>
> >>Mar 18 21:46:30 www3 kernel:
> >>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=29990,uid=60
> >>Mar 18 21:46:42 www3 mariadb[30043]: WARNING: mariadb is already stopped
> >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel: mariadbd invoked oom-killer:
> >>gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), order=0,
> >>oom_score_adj=0
> >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel: CPU: 1 UID: 60 PID: 30070 Comm: mariadbd
> >>Not tainted 6.12.71-1-lts #1 0c6f64fd677899b1f215535073935a6275af35f3
> >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel: [  30070]    60 30070   441047    43420
> >>43395       25         0   483328        0             0 mariadbd
> >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel:
> >>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=30070,uid=60
> >>
> >>
> >>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 02:27:58PM -0400, Ruben Safir via discuss wrote:
> >>>Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>I'll try it.  I already have the libraries on the system so I will alter
> >>>the init script.
> >>>
> >>>Is Monty still around?
> >>>
> >>>We used to talk quite a bit but I don't see him much any more.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 08:10:25PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss wrote:
> >>>>I don't think you can controll it through my.cnf.
> >>>>You'll have to edit the init script to add the LD_PRELOAD environment
> >>>>variable when mysqld/mariadbd loads.
> >>>>
> >>>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 20:06, Ruben Safir <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 07:47:20PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss wrote:
> >>>>>>yum install gperftools-libs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>```
> >>>>>>systemctl edit mariadb
> >>>>>>```
> >>>>>>and add this:
> >>>>>>```
> >>>>>>[Service]
> >>>>>>Environment="LD_PRELOAD=libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4"
> >>>>>>```
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Then:
> >>>>>>```
> >>>>>>systemctl daemon-reload
> >>>>>>systemctl restart mariadb
> >>>>>>```
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This can not be controlled through my.conf
> >>>>>or is this kernel/system environment issue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I don't use systemd
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 19:38, Ruben Safir <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 02:42:48PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss 
> >>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>Assuming you don't have your memory for MariaDB set too high for your
> >>>>>>>>RAM size (check using one of the many online MariaDB/MySQL memory
> >>>>>>>>calculators), it could be glibc's malloc() that has less than stellare
> >>>>>>>>fragmentation/occupancy characteristics. You might want to LD_PRELOAD
> >>>>>>>>tcmalloc and see of the OOM problem goes away.
> >>>>>>>Aside from altering header files and recompiling :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>how would I go about and do that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I have seen this
> >>>>>>>>problem manifest looking like a memory leak on several database
> >>>>>>>>estates I look after.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 14:28, Ruben Safir via discuss
> >>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 08:53:49AM -0300, Arlindo Neto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>It looks like apache is also getting killed by OOM in your 4GB VM.
> >>>>>>>>>Where do you see apache getting killed?  Apache seems to always be
> >>>>>>>>>running and mariadbd is killed.  And it won't restart.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I often pound the heck out of apache http://www.brookln-fishing.com
> >>>>>>>>>alone is my master peice of stupid web design with thousand of 
> >>>>>>>>>images on
> >>>>>>>>>it which swells apaches connecitons and cached memory in modperl.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>It is only maria which seems to be crashing.  It is used for a simple
> >>>>>>>>>text mailing list which stores emails in mariadb and serves them
> >>>>>>>>>read-only.  Mailing list entries are live stored on a back end 
> >>>>>>>>>database
> >>>>>>>>>on another machine where the mail is running and perdiodically I just
> >>>>>>>>>rsync the entire database from /usr/locl/var to the webserver.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The mailing list gets hammered by bots and that seems to be the 
> >>>>>>>>>source
> >>>>>>>>>of the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>MariaDB could be the victim here. I believe your next move should 
> >>>>>>>>>>be tuning
> >>>>>>>>>>Apache so it uses less memory,
> >>>>>>>>>>or move your db server to a spare VPS, so you can better 
> >>>>>>>>>>troubleshoot who
> >>>>>>>>>>is eating up your RAM.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 8:28 AM Ruben Safir via discuss <
> >>>>>>>>>>[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if this is much help
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 17 21:03:13 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 14642
> >>>>>>>>>>>(mariadbd) total-vm:4142548kB, anon-rss:13008kB, file-rss:440kB,
> >>>>>>>>>>>shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1612kB oom_score_adj:0
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 05:41:20 www3 mariadb[25757]: start-stop-daemon: no matching
> >>>>>>>>>>>processes found
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 25788
> >>>>>>>>>>>(mariadbd) total-vm:3217532kB, anon-rss:9196kB, file-rss:328kB,
> >>>>>>>>>>>shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1080kB oom_score_adj:0
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 17 21:03:13 www3 kernel:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=68,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=14642,uid=60
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 05:41:24 www3 mariadb[25767]: WARNING: mariadb is already 
> >>>>>>>>>>>stopped
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel: [  25788]    60 25788   804383     
> >>>>>>>>>>>2381
> >>>>>>>>>>>2299       82         0  1105920    91680             0 mariadbd
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=68,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=25788,uid=60
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: mariadbd invoked oom-killer:
> >>>>>>>>>>>gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), 
> >>>>>>>>>>>order=0,
> >>>>>>>>>>>oom_score_adj=0
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: CPU: 1 UID: 60 PID: 29866 Comm: 
> >>>>>>>>>>>mariadbd
> >>>>>>>>>>>Not tainted 6.12.71-1-lts #1 
> >>>>>>>>>>>0c6f64fd677899b1f215535073935a6275af35f3
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: [  29866]    60 29866   441047    
> >>>>>>>>>>>22216
> >>>>>>>>>>>22186       30         0   303104        0             0 mariadbd
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/68,task=/usr/local/apac,pid=14730,uid=2
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:46:30 www3 kernel:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=29990,uid=60
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 06:52:51AM -0400, Ruben Safir via discuss 
> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I'll see what I can do on the next crash, but I haven't been able 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>get anything from the logs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 05:57:31AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>mariadb, which I am running at Artix Linux, has been set up and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>flawlessly running for decades with Perl DBI:DBD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Of late, it has regularly been crashing and I can't find even log
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>entries as to the cause, but suspect that the server is getting
> >>>>>>>>>>>hammered
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>by AI robots stressing the system.  A LONG time ago I had a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>similar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>problem with memory allcoation being excusted and Monty showed 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>me how
> >>>>>>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>increase the memory allocation.  I don't know if a similar thing 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>help as I am sure that these f***king robots will steal as many
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>resources as you will feed them.  Once it crashed, it will not 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>restart.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sometimes I need to kill apache as well to restart.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Occasionally I've
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>had to do a complete system reboot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Do I have a solution to this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Reuvain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>2013
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>>>>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>>>>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
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> >>>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>>>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>>>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>>>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>Gordan Bobic
> >>>>>>>>Database Specialist, Shattered Silicon Ltd.
> >>>>>>>>https://shatteredsilicon.net
> >>>>>>>>Follow us:
> >>>>>>>>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shatteredsilicon
> >>>>>>>>X: https://x.com/ssiliconbg
> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Gordan Bobic
> >>>>>>Database Specialist, Shattered Silicon Ltd.
> >>>>>>https://shatteredsilicon.net
> >>>>>>Follow us:
> >>>>>>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shatteredsilicon
> >>>>>>X: https://x.com/ssiliconbg
> >>>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
> >>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-- 
> >>>>Gordan Bobic
> >>>>Database Specialist, Shattered Silicon Ltd.
> >>>>https://shatteredsilicon.net
> >>>>Follow us:
> >>>>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shatteredsilicon
> >>>>X: https://x.com/ssiliconbg
> >>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
> >>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> >>>-- 
> >>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>>
> >>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>>
> >>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >>>
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected]
> >>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
> >>-- 
> >>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> >>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> >>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> >>http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >>
> >>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> >>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> >>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> >>http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >>
> >>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> >>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
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http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
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