On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 06:42:04AM +0200, Maria wrote: > Hi, > > Yea, figure out why you're running out of RAM ... your overall > system is highly over-committed on RAM, resulting the the kernel > having no choice but to kill some process or another, due to the way > things work, this will typically be mariadb as it's the single > process consuming the most RAM. >
FWIW - the system has been stable for well over a decade (or two) - this seems to be a new behavior. I have no idea why the vram is starting out so fat. > Kind regards, > Jaco > > On 2026/03/26 01:12, Ruben Safir via discuss wrote: > > >Still crashing > >[ruben@www3 ~]$ sudo grep maria /var/log/everything.log > >[sudo] password for ruben: > >Mar 22 21:25:23 www3 start-stop-daemon[19993]: Will stop > >/usr/bin/mariadbd > >Mar 23 15:51:04 www3 start-stop-daemon[25003]: Will stop > >/usr/bin/mariadbd > >Mar 23 15:51:04 www3 mariadb[25003]: start-stop-daemon: no matching > >processes found > >Mar 23 15:51:08 www3 mariadb[25012]: WARNING: mariadb is already stopped > >Mar 24 19:30:13 www3 kernel: [ 25033] 60 25033 553615 3971 > >3831 140 0 1204224 99374 0 mariadbd > >Mar 24 19:30:13 www3 kernel: > >oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.named,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=25033,uid=60 > >Mar 24 19:30:13 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 25033 > >(mariadbd) total-vm:2214460kB, anon-rss:15324kB, file-rss:560kB, > >shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1176kB oom_score_adj:0 > > > >There must be a fix for this, otherwise and website with a mariadb would > >be useless > > > > > >On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 04:00:47PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > >>eh > >> > >>Mar 18 21:46:30 www3 kernel: > >>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=29990,uid=60 > >>Mar 18 21:46:42 www3 mariadb[30043]: WARNING: mariadb is already stopped > >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel: mariadbd invoked oom-killer: > >>gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), order=0, > >>oom_score_adj=0 > >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel: CPU: 1 UID: 60 PID: 30070 Comm: mariadbd > >>Not tainted 6.12.71-1-lts #1 0c6f64fd677899b1f215535073935a6275af35f3 > >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel: [ 30070] 60 30070 441047 43420 > >>43395 25 0 483328 0 0 mariadbd > >>Mar 18 21:47:36 www3 kernel: > >>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=30070,uid=60 > >> > >> > >>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 02:27:58PM -0400, Ruben Safir via discuss wrote: > >>>Thanks! > >>> > >>>I'll try it. I already have the libraries on the system so I will alter > >>>the init script. > >>> > >>>Is Monty still around? > >>> > >>>We used to talk quite a bit but I don't see him much any more. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 08:10:25PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss wrote: > >>>>I don't think you can controll it through my.cnf. > >>>>You'll have to edit the init script to add the LD_PRELOAD environment > >>>>variable when mysqld/mariadbd loads. > >>>> > >>>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 20:06, Ruben Safir <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 07:47:20PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss wrote: > >>>>>>yum install gperftools-libs > >>>>>> > >>>>>>``` > >>>>>>systemctl edit mariadb > >>>>>>``` > >>>>>>and add this: > >>>>>>``` > >>>>>>[Service] > >>>>>>Environment="LD_PRELOAD=libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4" > >>>>>>``` > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Then: > >>>>>>``` > >>>>>>systemctl daemon-reload > >>>>>>systemctl restart mariadb > >>>>>>``` > >>>>> > >>>>>This can not be controlled through my.conf > >>>>>or is this kernel/system environment issue. > >>>>> > >>>>>I don't use systemd > >>>>> > >>>>>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 19:38, Ruben Safir <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 02:42:48PM +0200, Gordan Bobic via discuss > >>>>>>>wrote: > >>>>>>>>Assuming you don't have your memory for MariaDB set too high for your > >>>>>>>>RAM size (check using one of the many online MariaDB/MySQL memory > >>>>>>>>calculators), it could be glibc's malloc() that has less than stellare > >>>>>>>>fragmentation/occupancy characteristics. You might want to LD_PRELOAD > >>>>>>>>tcmalloc and see of the OOM problem goes away. > >>>>>>>Aside from altering header files and recompiling :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>how would I go about and do that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I have seen this > >>>>>>>>problem manifest looking like a memory leak on several database > >>>>>>>>estates I look after. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 at 14:28, Ruben Safir via discuss > >>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 08:53:49AM -0300, Arlindo Neto wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>It looks like apache is also getting killed by OOM in your 4GB VM. > >>>>>>>>>Where do you see apache getting killed? Apache seems to always be > >>>>>>>>>running and mariadbd is killed. And it won't restart. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I often pound the heck out of apache http://www.brookln-fishing.com > >>>>>>>>>alone is my master peice of stupid web design with thousand of > >>>>>>>>>images on > >>>>>>>>>it which swells apaches connecitons and cached memory in modperl. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>It is only maria which seems to be crashing. It is used for a simple > >>>>>>>>>text mailing list which stores emails in mariadb and serves them > >>>>>>>>>read-only. Mailing list entries are live stored on a back end > >>>>>>>>>database > >>>>>>>>>on another machine where the mail is running and perdiodically I just > >>>>>>>>>rsync the entire database from /usr/locl/var to the webserver. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>The mailing list gets hammered by bots and that seems to be the > >>>>>>>>>source > >>>>>>>>>of the problem. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>MariaDB could be the victim here. I believe your next move should > >>>>>>>>>>be tuning > >>>>>>>>>>Apache so it uses less memory, > >>>>>>>>>>or move your db server to a spare VPS, so you can better > >>>>>>>>>>troubleshoot who > >>>>>>>>>>is eating up your RAM. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Cheers. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 8:28 AM Ruben Safir via discuss < > >>>>>>>>>>[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if this is much help > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 17 21:03:13 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 14642 > >>>>>>>>>>>(mariadbd) total-vm:4142548kB, anon-rss:13008kB, file-rss:440kB, > >>>>>>>>>>>shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1612kB oom_score_adj:0 > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 05:41:20 www3 mariadb[25757]: start-stop-daemon: no matching > >>>>>>>>>>>processes found > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 25788 > >>>>>>>>>>>(mariadbd) total-vm:3217532kB, anon-rss:9196kB, file-rss:328kB, > >>>>>>>>>>>shmem-rss:0kB, UID:60 pgtables:1080kB oom_score_adj:0 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 17 21:03:13 www3 kernel: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=68,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=14642,uid=60 > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 05:41:24 www3 mariadb[25767]: WARNING: mariadb is already > >>>>>>>>>>>stopped > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel: [ 25788] 60 25788 804383 > >>>>>>>>>>>2381 > >>>>>>>>>>>2299 82 0 1105920 91680 0 mariadbd > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 08:41:16 www3 kernel: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=68,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=25788,uid=60 > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: mariadbd invoked oom-killer: > >>>>>>>>>>>gfp_mask=0x140dca(GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE|__GFP_COMP|__GFP_ZERO), > >>>>>>>>>>>order=0, > >>>>>>>>>>>oom_score_adj=0 > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: CPU: 1 UID: 60 PID: 29866 Comm: > >>>>>>>>>>>mariadbd > >>>>>>>>>>>Not tainted 6.12.71-1-lts #1 > >>>>>>>>>>>0c6f64fd677899b1f215535073935a6275af35f3 > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: [ 29866] 60 29866 441047 > >>>>>>>>>>>22216 > >>>>>>>>>>>22186 30 0 303104 0 0 mariadbd > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:45:07 www3 kernel: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/68,task=/usr/local/apac,pid=14730,uid=2 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Mar 18 21:46:30 www3 kernel: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=openrc.mariadb,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/openrc.mariadb,task=mariadbd,pid=29990,uid=60 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 06:52:51AM -0400, Ruben Safir via discuss > >>>>>>>>>>>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>I'll see what I can do on the next crash, but I haven't been able > >>>>>>>>>>>>to > >>>>>>>>>>>>get anything from the logs > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 05:57:31AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>mariadb, which I am running at Artix Linux, has been set up and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>flawlessly running for decades with Perl DBI:DBD > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Of late, it has regularly been crashing and I can't find even log > >>>>>>>>>>>>>entries as to the cause, but suspect that the server is getting > >>>>>>>>>>>hammered > >>>>>>>>>>>>>by AI robots stressing the system. A LONG time ago I had a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>similar > >>>>>>>>>>>>>problem with memory allcoation being excusted and Monty showed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>me how > >>>>>>>>>>>to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>increase the memory allocation. I don't know if a similar thing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>help as I am sure that these f***king robots will steal as many > >>>>>>>>>>>>>resources as you will feed them. Once it crashed, it will not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>restart. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sometimes I need to kill apache as well to restart. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Occasionally I've > >>>>>>>>>>>>>had to do a complete system reboot. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Do I have a solution to this? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Reuvain > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >>>>>>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >>>>>>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir > >>>>>>>>>>>>>2013 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >>>>>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >>>>>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > >>>>>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >>>>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >>>>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >>>>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > >>>>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >>>>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >>>>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >>>>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >>>>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >>>>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > >>>>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > >>>>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > >>>>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>>Gordan Bobic > >>>>>>>>Database Specialist, Shattered Silicon Ltd. > >>>>>>>>https://shatteredsilicon.net > >>>>>>>>Follow us: > >>>>>>>>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shatteredsilicon > >>>>>>>>X: https://x.com/ssiliconbg > >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected] > >>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >>>>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >>>>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >>>>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >>>>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >>>>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > >>>>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! > >>>>>>>http://www.brooklyn-living.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, > >>>>>>>but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-- > >>>>>>Gordan Bobic > >>>>>>Database Specialist, Shattered Silicon Ltd. > >>>>>>https://shatteredsilicon.net > >>>>>>Follow us: > >>>>>>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shatteredsilicon > >>>>>>X: https://x.com/ssiliconbg > >>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>discuss mailing list -- [email protected] > >>>>>>To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >>>>>-- > >>>>>So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > >>>>>that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > >>>>>proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > >>>>>http://www.mrbrklyn.com > >>>>> > >>>>>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > >>>>>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > >>>>>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive > >>>>>http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! 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