> some kind of task force

What would that be? A weekly meeting,
or just a [tag] for 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
so that people can make sure they do not miss related e-mails?

Vratko (willing to help on releng and integration side of things).

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Dixon
Sent: 11 August, 2016 17:25
To: Michael Vorburger <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [OpenDaylight Discuss] Fast and/or Phased 
Planning for the Carbon Release

I think this thread is the best place to start trying to put together some kind 
of task force and a plan for how we can build the tools we would need to move 
to a fast and/or phased release process in the future. Namely, build the tools 
during Carbon so that we could maybe use them as the primary part of the 
release in Nitrogen or later.
The obvious candidates to help with the work would be Ed, Robert and Stephen, 
but we could use help.

--Colin

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Colin Dixon 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Right now, the way SNAPSHOTs work, my understanding is that we have a system 
that is logically equivalent to semantic versioning where we fix the major, 
minor, and patch versions, but bump the build version on every git commit and 
then publish it. The result is that we could change our merge jobs to actually 
publish that non-SNAPSHOT version to nexus and modify projects to consume the 
version range:
[x.y.z,x.y.z+1)
I *think* that would wind up having the same semantics as we have today, but 
have the benefits of:
1.) all published artifacts are immutable and explicitly named
2.) in theory, you could have a relatively simple local script that would let 
you revert your local build to specific versions of specific artifacts
3.) projects could then decouple patches from published artifacts, say merging 
4 related patches in a row and not publishing an artifact until the 4th
The obvious disadvantages are:
1.) Everyone needs to move to the version range over SNAPSHOTs at once (not 
quite, but close) for a given artifact
2.) We end up producing a lot more stuff that needs to be stored in nexus 
without cleaning up

Anyway, that's the straw man. The obvious way to test it would be to:
1.) pick a project to convert (odlparent? yangtools?) to publishing both 
SNAPSHOT and release versions in this way
2.) get their merge job set up (just add a second one that publishes release 
versions as above)
3.) find a leaf project to consume them via the version range (so that 
transitive dependencies don't screw things up)
4.) keep working from there
5.) make sure our release version bump scripts don't get confused, right now 
they just search for SNAPSHOT and remove it

Thoughts?
--Colin

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Michael Vorburger 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On a practical note, does anyone have a clearer idea how we could do "semantic 
versioning combined with downstream projects using a fixed version range" ? I'd 
love to see some sort of POC about that, because... I'm not yet convinced how 
this is technically possible! OSGi has this idea, but what we currently do in 
the build is not grab dependencies through a real OSGi resolver (à la p2 or OBR 
or so), but through classic Maven - which only has either fixed versions, or 
SNAPSHOT. Unless I'm missing something here.

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